Stalin's half-man, half-ape super-warriors

[Silas]

THE Soviet dictator Josef Stalin ordered the creation of Planet of the Apes-style warriors by crossing humans with apes, according to recently uncovered secret documents.
Moscow archives show that in the mid-1920s Russia's top animal breeding scientist, Ilya Ivanov, was ordered to turn his skills from horse and animal work to the quest for a super-warrior.

According to Moscow newspapers, Stalin told the scientist: "I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."

In 1926 the Politburo in Moscow passed the request to the Academy of Science with the order to build a "living war machine". The order came at a time when the Soviet Union was embarked on a crusade to turn the world upside down, with social engineering seen as a partner to industrialisation: new cities, architecture, and a new egalitarian society were being created.

The Soviet authorities were struggling to rebuild the Red Army after bruising wars.

And there was intense pressure to find a new labour force, particularly one that would not complain, with Russia about to embark on its first Five-Year Plan for fast-track industrialisation.

Mr Ivanov was highly regarded. He had established his reputation under the Tsar when in 1901 he established the world's first centre for the artificial insemination of racehorses.

Mr Ivanov's ideas were music to the ears of Soviet planners and in 1926 he was dispatched to West Africa with $200,000 to conduct his first experiment in impregnating chimpanzees.


Meanwhile, a centre for the experiments was set up in Georgia - Stalin's birthplace - for the apes to be raised.

Mr Ivanov's experiments, unsurprisingly from what we now know, were a total failure. He returned to the Soviet Union, only to see experiments in Georgia to use monkey sperm in human volunteers similarly fail.

A final attempt to persuade a Cuban heiress to lend some of her monkeys for further experiments reached American ears, with the New York Times reporting on the story, and she dropped the idea amid the uproar.

Mr Ivanov was now in disgrace. His were not the only experiments going wrong: the plan to collectivise farms ended in the 1932 famine in which at least four million died.

For his expensive failure, he was sentenced to five years' jail, which was later commuted to five years' exile in the Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan in 1931. A year later he died, reportedly after falling sick while standing on a freezing railway platform.

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[Carnyx]

What man can imagine such a thing?

Mr Ivanov's experiments, unsurprisingly from what we now know, were a total failure. He returned to the Soviet Union, only to see experiments in Georgia to use monkey sperm in human volunteers similarly fail.

Yuck...

[Corvin]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

What man can imagine such a thing?



Yuck...

Have you seen G.W. Bush?

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Corvin

Have you seen G.W. Bush?

Now that you tell me! He must be a prototype, a failure.







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[Menydh]

"I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."

These were qualities that have been highly regarded in warrior peoples since ancient times. Though at the same time the classics regarded them as barbarians.

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

"I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."

These were qualities that have been highly regarded in warrior peoples since ancient times. Though at the same time the classics regarded them as barbarians.

But its crap since especially those which are the best warrior types need more energy finally - but whats true is that the longer ranks dont need to be that intelligent what might help to get the rest.

In any case an interesting comparisons: Ns. wanted to breed supermen - enhance humans, the Bols wanted to downgrade humans to something half-human if that is true...

In fact such chumans or humpoids would be most likely the worst and most undisciplined warriors ever just ready to kill their Sergeant for a banana

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

But its crap since especially those which are the best warrior types need more energy finally

True. Yet, Roman legionaries had the strict minimum to eat -in order to keep them aggressives.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

In fact such chumans or humpoids would be most likely the worst and most undisciplined warriors ever just ready to kill their Sergeant for a banana

Talking to VG some weeks ago, we were commenting the status of the Spanish army after the end of conscription and all the reforms. I raised my complaint that for the new "professional" army, they were admitting South Americans who would join the army only to obtain a residence permit and eventually the nationality.

VG then said that in fact they had had to lower the requirements to be accepted, both height and IQ, to make them suitable for these new recruits. Then, he said that the new IQ lowest requirement was one which scientifically borders idiocy.

His conclusion was that, with such low IQs, in case of an armed conflict such people could only be expected to follow their most basic instincts, and run away. A plausible conclusion for a real scenario in my opinion.

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

True. Yet, Roman legionaries had the strict minimum to eat -in order to keep them aggressives.

Might make sense shortly before the battle or if they would grow fat and lazy, but not if the nutrition wouldnt be sufficient obviously.

His conclusion was that, with such low IQs, in case of an armed conflict such people could only be expected to follow their most basic instincts, and run away. A plausible conclusion for a real scenario in my opinion.

Or they would stand ground but are, without proper leadership, unable to do anything on their own whats both the strength and weakness of less intelligent soldiers. The real problem would rise if the officers would be of a lower category themselves too...

[Keiser]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

These were qualities that have been highly regarded in warrior peoples since ancient times.

But in peoples, not in freaks of nature!!!!