US Army used White Phosporus ammunition in Iraq

[Corvin]

The US Army according to the RAI news (Italy) used in November 2004 white phosphorus during the operations in Fallujah. The chemical (Corvin: In fact is a mixture of iron oxide, phosphorus, aluminum and magnesium) was used against the insurgens and probably against civilians.The full article here:http://www.rai.it/news/articolornews...201030,00.html


I bombardamenti con l'uso di fosforo bianco

Roma, 7 novembre 2005

L'esercito degli Stati Uniti ha usato il fosforo bianco durante l'attacco a Fallujah del novembre del 2004. L'agente chimico, contrariamente a quanto affermato dal Dipartimento di Stato in una nota del 9 dicembre 2004, non e' stato usato, secondo gli usi consentiti, per illuminare le postazioni nemiche, ma e' stato usato indiscriminatamente sui quartieri della citta'. E' quanto emerge da un'inchiesta di Rainews 24, realizzata da Sigfrido Ranucci, in onda domani alle 7,35, nella quale, con testimonianze di ex militari americani, vengono mostrati anche documenti filmati del bombardamento al fosforo, e quelli altamente drammatici che ne riprendono gli effetti, oltre che sugli insorgenti iracheni , anche su civili, donne e bambini di Fallujah, alcuni dei quali sorpresi nel sonno. Ascoltiamo un brano dell'intervista a un ex militare americano.

"Ho sentito io l'ordine di fare attenzione perché veniva usato il fosforo bianco su Fallujah. Nel gergo militare viene chiamato Willy Pete. Il fosforo brucia i corpi, addirittura li scioglie fino alle ossa". E' questa la tremenda testimonianza che un veterano della guerra in Iraq, ha rilasciato a Sigfrido Ranucci, inviato di Rai News 24. "Ho visto i corpi bruciati di donne e bambini - ha aggiunto l'ex militare statunitense - il fosforo esplode e forma una nuvola. Chi si trova nel raggio di 150 metri è spacciato". L'inchiesta di Rai News 24, "Fallujah. La strage nascosta", presenta oltre le testimonianze di militari statunitensi che hanno combattuto in Iraq, quelle di abitanti di Fallujah. "Una pioggia di fuoco e' scesa sulla citta', la gente colpita da queste sostanze di diverso colore ha cominciato a bruciare, abbiamo trovato gente morta con strane ferite, i corpi bruciati e i vestiti intatti" ha detto Mohamad Tareq al Deraji, biologo di Fallujah.
"Avevo raccolto testimonianze sull'uso del fosforo e del Napalm da alcuni profughi di Fallujah che avrei dovuto incontrare prima di essere rapita" - ha raccontato la giornalista del Manifesto, Giuliana Sgrena, a Rai News 24 - "avrei voluto raccontare tutto questo, ma i miei rapitori non me l'hanno permesso!".


L'inchiesta mostra documenti filmati e fotografici raccolti nella città irachena durante e dopo i bombardamenti del novembre 2004, dai quali risulta che l'esercito americano contrariamente a quanto dichiarato dal Dipartimento di Stato in una nota del 9 dicembre 2004, non ha usato l'agente chimico per illuminare le postazioni nemiche, come sarebbe lecito, ma ha gettato Fosforo Bianco in maniera indiscriminata e massiccia sui quartieri della citta'. Nell'inchiesta, curata da Maurizio Torrealta, vengono trasmessi anche documenti altamente drammatici che riprendono gli effetti dei bombardamenti sugli insorgenti iracheni, ma anche su civili, donne e bambini di Fallujah, alcuni dei quali sorpresi nel sonno. Il filmato mostra anche un documento dove si prova l'uso in Iraq di una versione del Napalm, chiamata con il nome MK77. L'uso di queste sostanze incendiarie su civili è vietato dalle convenzioni dell'Onu del 1980. Mentre l'uso di armi chimiche è vietato da una convenzione che gli Stati Uniti hanno firmato nel 1997.
Si toglie così il velo a una battaglia che nessuno ha potuto vedere.

"Fallujah. La Strage Nascosta" verrà trasmessa da Rai News 24 martedì 8 novembre alle ore 07.35 (sul satellite Hot Bird, sul canale 506 di Sky e su Rai Tre), in replica sul satellite Hot Bird e sul canale 506 di Sky alle 05.05 pomeridiane e nei due giorni successivi.

[Menydh]

It's sick.

[Corvin]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

It's sick.

I agree. And more to see will come when they will left in ruins Iraq.

[Menydh]

The death toll so far is apalling..

Iraq death toll 'soared post-war'

BBC News
29 October, 2005

Poor planning, air strikes by coalition forces and a "climate of violence" have led to more than 100,000 extra deaths in Iraq, scientists claim.

A study published by the Lancet says the risk of death by violence for civilians in Iraq is now 58 times higher than before the US-led invasion.
Unofficial estimates of civilian deaths had varied from 10,000 to over 37,000.


The Lancet admits the research is based on a small sample - under 1,000 homes - but says the findings are "convincing".


Responding to the Lancet article, a Pentagon spokesman defended coalition action in Iraq.

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[Menydh]

UN warns on Iraq environment fate

BBC News
October 10, 2005

Derelict factories, military scrapyards and battle sites across Iraq pose a threat to the environment and to public health, the United Nations has said.

The UN Environment Program has trained Iraqi specialists in detoxification, but says any clean-up could cost up to $40m (£23m).

Chemical spills, unsecured hazardous material and widespread pollution by depleted uranium are among the issues.

Without clean-up, heavy metals can poison ground water, causing illness.
The Unep has examined five sites as part of its training efforts, and is concerned by the results.

"There are hundreds, probably thousands of other sites with the need of assessment," said Mural Thummarukudy, Unep's manager in Iraq, who appealed for donations.

Alla Saleem developed an eye tumour linked to depleted uranium

String of wars

Among the five sites already probed are a metal plating facility at al-Qadyissa that was bombed, looted and then demolished in 2003.

Several tons of cyanide remain on the site, which is now an unsecured area used as a playground by local children.
The other sites include an old sulphur mine, a munitions factory containing unexploded ordnance and an abandoned petrochemicals plant.

Narmin Othman, Iraq's environment minister, said that some 311 sites were polluted by depleted uranium, the Associated Press reported.

Many of Iraq's potential danger spots were either damaged or destroyed during the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, the 1991 Gulf war or the US-led invasion in 2003.

In addition, many of the sites have been looted in recent years as insurgents and militias raid them for weapons and materiel, with little thought for potential environmental effects.



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[Dr. Solar Wolff]

The picture in the original article looks like flashes are occuring in the air rather than the ground. If this is correct, what is to prevent the US military from saying that this phosporus (magnesium) weaponry was only used for illumination purposes?

The Lancet is the world's leading medical journal. When it comes out with statements as they did, well, this is about as solid proof as anyone needs that this war certainly does not benifit Iraqis.

[Menydh]

You are right, it does not benefit the Iraqis but for more reasons than just that.

It always start with the made-up excuse of bringing Democracy to every corner of the World, when Democracy, in its form of multi-party system, has proven wrong even in the so-called first World.

However, it has served them as an excuse to invade Iraq to serve the interests of Israel by eliminating the most anti-Jewish state in the area, and to control their oil supplies. Together with the excuse of the yet-to-be-found weapons of mass destruction. So far the only weapons of mass destruction on Iraqi soil seem to be those brought by the U.S. military.

Iraq, with its varied ethno-religious composition, was a country complex where stability was hard to maintain. Agreed that Saddam Hussein ruled with an iron fist, and agreed too that he might have overdone it with the Kurds. But in this he was not worse than many preferent allies of the U.S., like Turkey which has been harsher with the Kurds, or Morocco with Western Saharans, a country which they invaded with the go-ahead of the U.S.^(*)

The other attempted excuse for the invasion, Islamism... for Christ's sake! Islamic fundamentalists in Saddam's Iraq did not dare to raise their voices!!! Look how they are growing strong now!

Saddam was the right ruler for such a country. Only God knows what the future will be for Iraq now.

As a note aside, people here might be interested in knowing that in the 90s Saddam Hussein received comrades from Europe in Iraq, to whom he gave his friendly welcome.


(*)While General Franco was dying in 1975, Morocco sent to then Spanish ruled Western Sahara a march of thousands of Moroccans who entered Western Sahara. They were all in civilian clothes though many were Moroccan Army and Police members, and at the head of the march they carried the U.S. flag. This was to make the Spanish Army understand that they were under the protection of the U.S., and had Spain shot a bullet over this fake civilian march Spain would have had it hard with the U.S.

Western allies? My foot!

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

Mynydd raised the issue of bringing democracy to the Near East as a reason, or alleged reason, for the invasion of Iraq. It is a little surprising that this particular issue got any play outside of the USA where it goes down well as Americans associated democracy with the "American Way". In other words, it plays to an enthnocentric argument.

But how or why does Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, or the Neo-Cons think, for even one second, that they have the right to impose democracy on anybody else?

Another red herring issue or cause for war was oil. To add confusion to the whole Iraq War issue, Jewish agents, speaking from the shadows, raise American interest in Iraqi oil as a reason for war. They do this just at the point where the subject of Israel might just come up. Then, they turn around and discredit the war-for-oil theory and then lump any covert reason for war (of course including the one in which it benifits Israel) into a conspiracy contex and dismiss all such ideas as the ideas of nuts.

Of course we now know KBR, a Halliburtion subsiderary, is doing all the pipeline work and infa-structure work in Iraq and surrounding countries, but Jews don't like this issue either.

[Corvin]

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

But how or why does Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, or the Neo-Cons think, for even one second, that they have the right to impose democracy on anybody else?

Churchill said (1947) that "Balkans produce more history than they can consume". Similar to that, a Journalist in PC Plus magazine (2004) said that "America produces much more Democracy than it can consume".

I don't have much problems with the disease of Democracy (and by the way Demos in Greek means people while Deimos means Terror, Terrorcracy should be the better term), but if the States need to become again a Superpower (now they are not! ) they will need to keep their industry and Democracy Home.

Sincerelly
Corvin

[Menydh]

(warning: highly disturbing pictures)

Apparently, white phosphorus does not destroy the clothes but the human tissues. The images on the link are horrifying to extremes that one could never expect from the worst and lowest of the human beings..

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/in...gallery=1&id=5

.. let God forgive greedy America for its extremely savage cruelty, because there must not be forgiving nor forgetting for it in this life and in this world.

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

Over the weekend, the US Army has now admitted they used phosporus as a weapon in Fallujaha last year. At first they said they only used it to flush out "terrorists" but then later admitted they used it directly on them.

Then they said White Phosporus wasn't a chemical weapon.

[Carnyx]

Let's not forget it's not only an American war but overall a Jewish one.

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

Let's not forget it's not only an American war but overall a Jewish one.

Has anyone else benifited from this war but the Jews? I heard someone say that only four American Jews have died in the US military during this whole war.

[Nerthus]

US general defends use of phosphorus

The top United States general has defended the use of munitions containing white phosphorus in Iraq. General Peter Pace called white phosporus weapons "a legitimate tool" used to mark targets and create smoke screens. His remarks come amid allegations that civilians were victims of white phosphorus bombs in the the battle for Fallujah last year. If white phosphorus contacts skin, it causes severe burning. The US has admitted using it in Fallujah to flush out insurgents. Initially, the military had denied using the substance.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0...5_pg_3,00.html

[Siegmund]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

How wonderful to discover that no tool is off limits in the noble effort to save and protect the Iraqi people! The fact that Iraqis seem to be so ungrateful only proves how selfless their saviors are... hmm, no.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

Has anyone else benifited from this war but the Jews? I heard someone say that only four American Jews have died in the US military during this whole war.

Now that you ask.. the Islamic fundamentalists (and uh.. are there others?).

Before the invasion of Iraq, Saddam's regime was a deterrent to Islamic fundamentalism. Today Iraq is a field fertilised for the growth of Islamic fundamentalism. Will Syria be next?