Why is there a "Latin" AKA amerindian festival in Spain

[Quintos]

http://www.zaragozalatina.com/ and http://www.brownpride.com/articles/article.asp?a=269

This site was posted www.brownpride.com their going to have an art show and some "Latin" singers in some sort of exhibition. This is the kind of non-Spanish garbage that the Spanish government promotes???? Isnt this grazy?! What are your opinions on this should shows like this that promote non-Spanish culture in Spain be permited? Shows like this would be more appropriate in the amerindian homeland Mexico do they think we are brothers and have the same "latin" culture the fact is we do not as of course just about EVERYONE on this site knows if only more people were as educated as you guys.

[Menydh]

The fact remains that the ordinary people, who used to have no trouble with South & Central Americans, are developing a sense of rejection to them ever since they started coming here. And that feeling has been increased since the formation of their gangs.

[Strengthandhonour]

This is all thanks to Bambi or AKA zapatero, I hate that man. But I was born in South America, and when I hear them call themselves "Latins" my face totally falls in shame and disgrace. They make people with real latin blood feel embarassed, I am very proud of my Spanish ethnicy, even if it's only my grandmother, but when you see a bunch of mestizos calling themselves "Spanish" I just get fairly frustrated.

[Quintos]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

This is all thanks to Bambi or AKA zapatero, I hate that man. But I was born in South America, and when I hear them call themselves "Latins" my face totally falls in shame and disgrace. They make people with real latin blood feel embarassed, I am very proud of my Spanish ethnicy, even if it's only my grandmother, but when you see a bunch of mestizos calling themselves "Spanish" I just get fairly frustrated.

And Anglo-Saxon Americans and Americans in general regardless of race are doing nothing to help solve this cultural problem and racial confusion and in fact have in some sense created it. The Mexicans do not want to be called Hispanic America is so politicaly correct that it does not want to affend the millions of the mixed race immigrants coming from Mexico therefore they have to call them hispanic in order not to sound racist using a term such as mestizo which can be seen as rather insulting. In America a so called "hispanic" race does exist and even teachers and officials talk about it as if it is some sort of ethnic group comprised of people which are very similar which is far from the truth its just being ignorant and idiotic at least when hispanic is used as a term for latin Americans (mostly mixed race) even though their are some whites. As everyone on here knows hispanic is the proper term for the European people of Spain.

[Strengthandhonour]

In the US there is this huge confusion. Everyone who comes from South Ameirca is "Hispanic", it dosn't matter if you are black or nordic. It obviously offends many people, I think US authorities are just to laizy to look at the people and make a classification about it.

[Quintos]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

In the US there is this huge confusion. Everyone who comes from South Ameirca is "Hispanic", it dosn't matter if you are black or nordic. It obviously offends many people, I think US authorities are just to laizy to look at the people and make a classification about it.

Its not that their lazy I mean lets face it here although not everyone from Spanish speaking America is non-white or mixed it is certainly a very big racial cualdron. The funny thing is that the US is slowly becoming the same way sadly the same can be said about Europe.

[Strengthandhonour]

The US is mixed as it is, now you start to see people that are Danish/Irish/Mexican or German/Scotish/Puerto Rican. It's all this crazy racial mixes. But there is a lot of problems with the way race is viewed in America, very confusing.

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

Originally Posted by Quintos

And Anglo-Saxon Americans and Americans in general regardless of race are doing nothing to help solve this cultural problem and racial confusion and in fact have in some sense created it. The Mexicans do not want to be called Hispanic America is so politicaly correct that it does not want to affend the millions of the mixed race immigrants coming from Mexico therefore they have to call them hispanic in order not to sound racist using a term such as mestizo which can be seen as rather insulting. In America a so called "hispanic" race does exist and even teachers and officials talk about it as if it is some sort of ethnic group comprised of people which are very similar which is far from the truth its just being ignorant and idiotic at least when hispanic is used as a term for latin Americans (mostly mixed race) even though their are some whites. As everyone on here knows hispanic is the proper term for the European people of Spain.

People are flooding our southern border like a tidal wave. Most, by far, are Mexicans but there are others from Central and South America. The "others" don't want to be called Mexicans. That is a huge insult. So, the term Hispanic was invented. The fact is that all these people self-identify as Hispanics when asked to fill out forms concerning ethnic identity. Of course there are designations like: Hispanic/Negro or White Hispanic which are more racially precise. Most "Hispanics" in the USA and Canada are basically of Indian ancestry with some Spanish or non-Indian blood, but this is usually a much smaller percentage than the Indian. Mostly, this term, Hispanic, is a term of self-identification among these people. Anglo-Americans aren't going to insult them by saying that they are not Hispanic. If anyone is going to be able to do that and get away with it, it is the citizens of the Iberian Peninsula themselves.

[Quintos]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

The US is mixed as it is, now you start to see people that are Danish/Irish/Mexican or German/Scotish/Puerto Rican. It's all this crazy racial mixes. But there is a lot of problems with the way race is viewed in America, very confusing.

This none-sense may work in the US but unfortunately the way the things are currently looking it is very likely that in Spain and other European nations we will have a heavy mixture similar to that which we see in the US of course this is already happening ive already seen mestizos in Spain and with much more recent Spanish admixture if you know what I mean. Not only is their mixture between amerindians but black people as well ive seen mulatos in Madrid what a mess...

[Strengthandhonour]

Yes. There is lots of mixes throughout Europe, In Italy I know there is mixes with Albanians in some parts but then there is mixes with others like Polish,Croatian,Serbian,Greek which it's not so bad. But do you know about how many immigrants from Latin America arrive in Spain each year? I woudln't expect the figure to be so big.

[Quintos]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

Yes. There is lots of mixes throughout Europe, In Italy I know there is mixes with Albanians in some parts but then there is mixes with others like Polish,Croatian,Serbian,Greek which it's not so bad. But do you know about how many immigrants from Latin America arrive in Spain each year? I woudln't expect the figure to be so big.

One is one to many.

[Breogan]

The word "Latin" is so degradated that Cato has turned into mulatto.
The same has ocurred with "Hispanic".

The same nonsence like saying rap is a germanic music because the africans sing in English...

This is a latin guy:

[ÅnÐReS]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

This is all thanks to Bambi or AKA zapatero, I hate that man.

I don't think so. This kind of "Latino" or "Hispanic" pseudoidentity is not a novelty at all.
In fact, Simón Bolivar * basicaly thought that all the peoples of (so-called) Latin America were to be brothers, and he had the "dream" of a Latin American (political) union. Such egalitarian ideas makes sense since he was a Free Mason. But the point here is that this whole phenomena is very old.

It's so ironic that being South and Central America the vaste and diverse lands that they are, yet there is so many people who believe in a shared or common identity which embraces all of us living in this Continent.


* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Bolivar

Originally Posted by Strenghtandhonour

But I was born in South America, and when I hear them call themselves "Latins" my face totally falls in shame and disgrace. They make people with real latin blood feel embarassed, I am very proud of my Spanish ethnicy, even if it's only my grandmother, but when you see a bunch of mestizos calling themselves "Spanish" I just get fairly frustrated.

I feel likewise.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by ÅnÐReS

In fact, Simón Bolivar * basicaly thought that all the peoples of (so-called) Latin America were to be brothers, and he had the "dream" of a Latin American (political) union. Such egalitarian ideas makes sense since he was a Free Mason.

Right. Simón Bolivar was a Freemason himself, and as such went to England with those of his kind. The house where he lived can be visited in Baker St., London.

[Strengthandhonour]

Originally Posted by ÅnÐReS

I don't think so. This kind of "Latino" or "Hispanic" pseudoidentity is not a novelty at all.
In fact, Simón Bolivar * basicaly thought that all the peoples of (so-called) Latin America were to be brothers, and he had the "dream" of a Latin American (political) union. Such egalitarian ideas makes sense since he was a Free Mason. But the point here is that this whole phenomena is very old.

It's so ironic that being South and Central America the vaste and diverse lands that they are, yet there is so many people who believe in a shared or common identity which embraces all of us living in this Continent.


* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Bolivar


I feel likewise.

oh just to clarify, when refering to Zapatero, I meant it's his fault because he is allowing them to do this.