white teenager girls attacked by black males, blacks screamed "BLACK POWER!"

[Ingwaz]

The problem is, it was a small minority who were involved in the slave trade and brought the Negroids here and also a small minority who 'owned' them as slaves. Alas for the rest of us now who have to deal with the aftermath of this unfortunate set of occurrences.

Oh and Phleg--see above with regard to whites being too lazy to run their farms. Somehow we managed up here alright without Negroid slaves--hence their virtual nonexistence here. That and it being altogether too cold for them here.

[Nerthus]

Yes, of course it is bad that the Americans today have to cope with the presence of these black people, or African-Americans, as they like to call themselves, although some have no fault for the fact that slaves were brought there. I don't personally know any black Africans proper, but I have heard that African-Americans are actually worse than them and have a totally different mentality. They are involved in the drug and alcohol scene, violent crimes, rape and other types of harassment. Even the lyrics of their music are violent. I can but imagine the bad influence those have on children and teenagers.

[Rusalka]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

I don't personally know any black Africans proper, but I have heard that African-Americans are actually worse than them and have a totally different mentality.

Worse? I wouldn't call the Africans proper "bad", to start with. They're Africans, living in Africa and no doubt that there are good people and bad people amongst them. African-American (which is, I think a term that makes sense) or black culture is a completely different concept. Their whole identity is based on slavery and their levels of opposition to the "white man". Theirs is a culture and identity completely lost because they're neither African nor anything else. I had met Africans from countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia and they were perfectly fine people; that is neither universally good or bad, just themselves.

[Prussian]

Originally Posted by Rusalka

Worse? I wouldn't call the Africans proper "bad", to start with. They're Africans, living in Africa and no doubt that there are good people and bad people amongst them. African-American (which is, I think a term that makes sense) or black culture is a completely different concept. Their whole identity is based on slavery and their levels of opposition to the "white man". Theirs is a culture and identity completely lost because they're neither African nor anything else. I had met Africans from countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia and they were perfectly fine people; that is neither universally good or bad, just themselves.

Somewhat due to an overall identity crisis. An example would be these African-american Pan-Black movements calling themselves Nubians when they were infact slaves from the west african coast not from the East as the historic Nubians were. Result of a Major identity crisis.

[Nerthus]

I wouldn't call Africans "bad" either, or other coloured persons living in their countries. I wanted to say they are different from Africans and in a bad way - I guess I did not express myself right. As I said, I do not personally know any black Africans.

[Klov]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

The point is: America is beyond any hope because they whites were too lazy to run their farms and pick their cotton. Now they have to suffer the consequences.

As far as blacks in my country are concerned: We never had slaves, the colonies had been given up over 80 years ago, we don't owe them a thing and they do not belong here. Same is true for swarthy, unemployed, illiterate Anatolians, by the way.

Didn't the Turks ally with the Germans in WW1 though? Or are you distinguishing between Turks and Anatolians?

[Rusalka]

Originally Posted by Klov

Didn't the Turks ally with the Germans in WW1 though? Or are you distinguishing between Turks and Anatolians?

Turkey (or rather the Ottoman Empire) and Germany were allies in WWI. Later, in WWII, Turkey (as a new state) was again sympathetic to the German cause at first but it was too weak to enter another war. When it was obvious that the Allies were winning the war Turkey "declared war" on Germany, right before Germany surrendered. There were circles who thought entering the war on German side would be a good idea but the government at the time thought differently.

[Phlegethon]

Originally Posted by Klov

Didn't the Turks ally with the Germans in WW1 though? Or are you distinguishing between Turks and Anatolians?

We had quite a few allies in WW1 as well as in WW2, but not because these countries loved Germans so much but because they wanted to have their piece of the cake. When the hope for the piece of the cake faded several allies simply changed alliances. I do not see how that makes us owe these folks anything well over half a century later.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

Unfortunately though, when we speak of the USA, it was these white people that brought blacks as slaves.

White people ? Are you really sure ?
Would you call this kind of people "White" ?

Moses, Joseph and Samuel Frazon
Abraham de Lucena and Justus Bosch
Mordecai Gomez and Rodrigo Pacheco
Rachel Marks (8)
Nathan Levy and David Franks (2)
Naohthali, Isaac and Abraham Hart
Samuel Levy
John Franks
Samson Levy
Moses and David Franks (2)
Isaac Levy
David G. Seixas (2)
Benjamin S. Spitzer
John Bueno
James De Wolf
Isaac Levy
Hayman Levy
Judah Hays
Jacob Franks
Samuel Jacobs
Emmanuel Alvares Correa, Moses Cardozo Abraham Hart
Moses Levy (2)
Moses Lopez
Naphthali Hart

From Jewish Owned Slave Ships (Curaçao's Registers)

The most important slaves' "traders" were Moses Cohen Mordecai and Abraham Gradis. Gradis owned 26 ships for his trade, and in 1800 Mordecai owned more than 100 of them. In 1830, 75% of the 625,000 Southern families (in the USA) who owned Black slaves were Jewish. It is also known that in the Caribbean islands, Jews were the most important maritime tradesmen, especially for the Black slaves, and had almost all the warehouses with material for equipment and repair.

As Ingwaz said, but without calling a Jew a Jew, it was a small minority who were involved in the slave trade and brought the Black slaves.

[Nerthus]

I have to admit though I did not know so many of the families that owned black slaves were Jewish.

[Klov]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

We had quite a few allies in WW1 as well as in WW2, but not because these countries loved Germans so much but because they wanted to have their piece of the cake. When the hope for the piece of the cake faded several allies simply changed alliances. I do not see how that makes us owe these folks anything well over half a century later.

Do any other nationalities fall into this category? Eg. Spanish, Italian, Romanian.

[Nerthus]

The Romanians switched from one side to another in not one, but two Wars.

[Aistulf]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

I have to admit though I did not know so many of the families that owned black slaves were Jewish.

There's one prominent Afro-American, that has dared to bring this up, he's probably the only negroes Jews really (publicly) hate


Here's an interesting speech:

Jewish Slave Traders (video)

Contrary to popular belief, it was jews and not Whites, who were responsible for the bulk of the financing, trafficking and sales of black slaves. In this 2001 video of an IHR conference, a black professor of black history discusses and exposes this predominant role jews played in the African slave trade.

[Klov]

Originally Posted by Aistulf

There's one prominent Afro-American, that has dared to bring this up, he's probably the only negroes Jews really (publicly) hate


Here's an interesting speech:

Jewish Slave Traders (video)

Given that Jews have been just about ubiquitous in the last 2,000 years, it fails to surprise me that they were involved in the slave trade. But so were a lot of gentiles, Muslims and black Africans. After all, the slave trade in West Africa existed before the whites arrived, and still exists there in a different form after emancipation in the West.

Blacks in the US and Carribean have in part their ancestors' enemies to blame for their predicament, along with the white slave owners looking for cheap labour, and all those others, including Jews, who financed and profited from the affair. I don't think we can attempt to absolve ourselves as white gentiles from blame for the slave trade by pinning it on the Jews, do you?