British woman could face 6 years for sex in public in the Emirates

[Menydh]

British woman faces six years for sex on Dubai beach

July 9, 2008
TimesOnline

A British businesswoman is facing six years in a Dubai jail after she was allegedly caught having sex on a beach.

Michelle Palmer, 30, a publishing firm manager, says that she is “panicking” after being arrested by a police officer who saw her with a man on Jumeirah Beach in the tiny oil-rich state.

It has been reported that she was charged with having sex outside marriage, indecent behaviour in public, being drunk in public and assaulting a police officer.

Ms Palmer is said to be worried that the authorities will push for the harshest possible sentence to make an example of her behaviour.

It is thought that she works in Dubai for a magazine publishing firm and that the man also accused in connection with the incident was a British holidaymaker.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: “Two British nationals were arrested in Dubai on July 5. We are providing consular assistance and the case is currently under investigation.”

Ms Palmer faces a sentence of between three months and six years in jail in the state, one of seven that makes up the United Arab Emirates. Her fellow accused faces a similar sentence.

The Foreign Office website says that in Dubai public displays of affection are unacceptable, and there have been several arrests for kissing in public. Sex outside marriage is illegal in the UAE, as is cohabitation, adultery and homosexual behaviour.

Ms Palmer said: “Because this is known everywhere they’re going to make an example of us and we’re going to get a higher sentence. We are in so much trouble and my family and everybody are affected. Until someone is in this situation they could never know what it’s like. It’s bad - it’s so, so bad.

“They are being pushed into a corner to make an example of us. I’m panicking. I can’t say anything else.”

In recent years, Dubai has become a popular tourist destination, with British holidaymaker tempted by the warm sea, perfect beaches and luxurious hotels.

In 2006 more than a million British visitors travelled to the UAE, and more than 100,000 British nationals are resident there.

In February, Radio 1 DJ Grooverider, whose real name is Raymond Bingham, was jailed for four years after two grams of cannabis was found in his luggage when he tried to enter the country.

Four years’ imprisonment is a common sentence for drugs possession, and trafficking carries the death penalty.


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[Der]

Too bad, she should have thought of it earlier or decided to go and live somewhere else if she didn't like the laws of the country.

There is no use crying now.

Never commit a crime you aren’t willing to pay for. And living in that country, she should have been aware of what she could and could not do.

[KaloMatt]

Why Britain doesn't punish all muslim delinquents in their country too?

[Marcus Marulus]

It has been reported that she was charged with having sex outside marriage, indecent behaviour in public, being drunk in public and assaulting a police officer.

Well, some of these things are punishable in most "Western" countries as well, aren't they? Sex outside marriage certainly isn't punishable as such, but having sex in the public place can get you arrested (regardless of whether it is outside or within marriage). I doubt any "Western" country treats assault on a police-officer leniently either. Being drunk in public is nowhere a crime, but you may be punished if it is coupled with indecent bahaviour.

[Carnyx]

Drunk Brits on a beach in summer? No way, I can't believe it.

In recent years, Dubai has become a popular tourist destination, with British holidaymaker tempted by the warm sea, perfect beaches and luxurious hotels.

Those retards had mistaken the UEA for a sex paradise. Sea, prohibited sex and sun. Smells like Zeropean tourists...

[bombadillo]

Originally Posted by Der

Too bad, she should have thought of it earlier or decided to go and live somewhere else if she didn't like the laws of the country.

The "laws" are interpreted in a flexible manner over there. One law for the ruling family and its cronies, one for whites, and yet another for the underclass of Phillipinos and Pakistanis. Ordinarily in a country like Dubai, one would expect a warning and a slap on the wrist for whites for a first-time offence (this is not Saudi Arabia). After all, the ruler wants to make this a tourist mecca and has untold billions invested in the prospect. And speaking of laws, the ruler -- al-Makhtoum -- comes from a line of smugglers, and has himself been accused of abducting hundreds of boys to use as camel jockeys.

[Menydh]

Simply, that woman has disrespected the Dubai's society and she has broken their laws on social and public morals. What are the left and right liberals going to say about it? That she is a victim of a backwards and intollerant society?

She is not. The victims are the people of that society, vandalized by her acts, and her own husband betrayed and humiliated by her primitivist lust.

You don't visit someone else's home and do a public display of your sexual promiscuity.

Worse, it is likely that public sex in Britain is a crime too, or an offense against public morality. Whether they enforce the laws in Britain or not is a different matter. And the fact that Muslims and other foreigners in Britain disrespect that society on a daily basis, tells all that there is to know.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Menydh

Simply, that woman has disrespected the Dubai's society and she has broken their laws on social and public morals. What are the left and right liberals going to say about it? That she is a victim of a backwards and intollerant society?

They will say that she is a champion of Western liberty and civilization, victimized by evil Islamofascists. At least the right liberals will say that. Some would add that a regime change is needed there, operated through some military operation of some "coalition of the willing", with the aim that one of such basic individual freedoms like "sex on the beach" be enforced there. The left liberals would say war is no solution, but that UN must be engaged to convince UAE to allow such basic freedoms as sex on the beach, that Security Council should send the first warning to UAE and then the negotiations should start. Possibly also the European Commission should provide some assistance in the process.

Originally Posted by bombadillo

The "laws" are interpreted in a flexible manner over there. One law for the ruling family and its cronies, one for whites, and yet another for the underclass of Phillipinos and Pakistanis. Ordinarily in a country like Dubai, one would expect a warning and a slap on the wrist for whites for a first-time offence (this is not Saudi Arabia). After all, the ruler wants to make this a tourist mecca and has untold billions invested in the prospect. And speaking of laws, the ruler -- al-Makhtoum -- comes from a line of smugglers, and has himself been accused of abducting hundreds of boys to use as camel jockeys.

All of what you say might be true, in fact, I believe it at face value it is. However, that is a matter that needs to be discussed on a different level. Whether or not a country you come to as a visitor is run by a corrupt king/emir/president, you certainly know that things like sex on the beach or attacking a police officer are punishable. Nor can you use the fact of country's corruption as any sort of excuse.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by bombadillo

The "laws" are interpreted in a flexible manner over there.

The interpretation of the laws is a part of the concept upon which a law system is based.

That comment aside, the UAE is not exactly like Saudi Arabia.

[bombadillo]

Originally Posted by Menydh

The interpretation of the laws is a part of the concept upon which a law system is based.

Hehe, my fault for being vague: I meant the interpretation depends on who's at the receiving end.

That comment aside, the UAE is not exactly like Saudi Arabia.

Sure. I think alcohol is allowed. Sunbathing is allowed. Women are allowed to drive, and don't need to veiled. The political climate is probably not so constricting. Al-Makhtoum seems like an okay guy, a businessman at heart. There are differences.

Originally Posted by marulus

or attacking a police officer are punishable

I haven't read the story, so I don't know if she really "assaulted" the policeman. She probably abused him at least.

[swordjumper]

Why do some western tourists feel they have the right to behave badly while they are guests in a foreign country ? She deserves everything she gets.

[The Venetian]

The Brit press will probably make a martyr of her.

[bombadillo]

Originally Posted by Adaman

The Brit press will probably make a martyr of her.

Murdoch papers like The Sun and News of the World will (unless Murdoch is trying to snitch up some media deal in the UAE, in which case his papers will downplay the incident).

[Susi]

Originally Posted by swordjumper

Why do some western tourists feel they have the right to behave badly while they are guests in a foreign country ? She deserves everything she gets.

I feel the same way... perhaps I wouldn't if she didn't do something as bad as she had done or something that didn't deserve punishment...

But I don't understand why they feel they have that right either.

[CorneliuCodreanu]

[You can't help, can you? - Carnyx]

UK holiday makers should just stay in the UK if they don't want to be punished, common western "entertainment" are punished in places where morality still exists. So Brits, stay in the UK, where you can blow your black boyfriend on the tube in front of old ladies and effeminate ginger men with the biggest punishment is people trying not to look.

Sure. I think alcohol is allowed. Sunbathing is allowed. Women are allowed to drive, and don't need to veiled. The political climate is probably not so constricting. Al-Makhtoum seems like an okay guy, a businessman at heart. There are differences.

You are contradicting yourself. You say you are a social nationalist in your profile, yet you praise a dirtbag like Al-Makhtoum who is McDonaldizing his nation and allowing globalist-"western" culture to seep into his nation? Those "rights" like drinking alcohol and women having relatively equal rights to men, etc , are foreign to the Islamic faith, and any nation made up of muslims should ban this.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by CorneliuCodreanu

Why don't they just execute her?

You need serious help.

You are contradicting yourself.

He is not. It is you who is taking his words totally out of context.