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Anybody's opinion, please? To me he appears just like a well conceived hack for the usual puppeteers, a nice way to change everything in order to leave all unchanged.

If it weren't so he wouldn't be getting millions, and as a senator he has shown no sign of honesty because of a longstanding backing from a shadowy fraudster and entrepreneur of Chicago.
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Anybody's opinion, please? To me he appears just like a well conceived hack for the usual puppeteers, a nice way to change everything in order to leave all unchanged.

If it weren't so he wouldn't be getting millions, and as a senator he has shown no sign of honesty because of a longstanding backing from a shadowy fraudster and entrepreneur of Chicago.
I dunno. He seems commited to cutting military spending, which is good. If USA took a stand on reducing spending it would have very beneficial effects.
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What's good about it?He will stop the development of the US Army and it's weapons while Iran,China and Russia are doing the right opposite?You think that's good for Europe?
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What's good about it?He will stop the development of the US Army and it's weapons while Iran,China and Russia are doing the right opposite?You think that's good for Europe?
Their spending is paltry in comparison, and prompted by competition with a US dominance. From what I've read, US accounts for nearly half of all military spending in the world.
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What's good about it?He will stop the development of the US Army and it's weapons while Iran,China and Russia are doing the right opposite?You think that's good for Europe?
yes. Europe cannot rely on foreign help, especially by an US President who is an african with a commie soul.

Sorry to disturb your sensitivity but we would be better protected by Russia.
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Sorry to disturb your sensitivity but we would be better protected by Russia.
From what?

Do Europe (or EU) actually even need to be protected? If there would be a big 'rematch', everyone else is mickey-mouse except USA, Russia and China, Europe being able to defend itself.
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It is not plausible that Obama intends to end the campaigns in foreign lands; I have said so before. This is just the same old prince of peace bullshit that is typical of the image that the Democrats want to project.
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From what?

Do Europe (or EU) actually even need to be protected? If there would be a big 'rematch', everyone else is mickey-mouse except USA, Russia and China, Europe being able to defend itself.
Well, any nuclear power: Russia, India from now on, even Pakistan.
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It is not plausible that Obama intends to end the campaigns in foreign lands; I have said so before. This is just the same old prince of peace bullshit that is typical of the image that the Democrats want to project.
Well, i think there are not too many other options, even if miracle could ever happen ... America disarming for good.

I do not see Eu taking its defense burden at all.
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yes. Europe cannot rely on foreign help, especially by an US President who is an african with a commie soul.
I agree - that's why i support McCain.

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Ofcours,as we always did,especially during the 18th,19th and 20th century.
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To me he appears just like a well conceived hack for the usual puppeteers, a nice way to change everything in order to leave all unchanged.
I couldn't agree more. Anyway, I honestly don't believe that he, or any future American president for that matter, can issue such major order without consulting his masters.
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Do Europe (or EU) actually even need to be protected?
Europe needs to be saved instead.
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I agree - that's why i support McCain.
You really believe there is a difference between Obama and McCain? Same wine, different bottle.
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You really believe there is a difference between Obama and McCain? Same wine, different bottle.
I guess i prefer white whine.
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I guess i prefer white whine.
USA is anyway a total mix, so I don't see why 'whites' should be prefered. They were the one to bring sub-saharans to America. They didn't swim over the ocean by their own. And these whites were also the one who oppressed the native population. I would not mind him as a president of the US only because of his race. But I just think it would make no difference.
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I wouldn't call McCain "white wine". He's more like a glass of rosé.

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If anyone by any chance thinks US president elections will change anything in Europe for better he/she needs a reality check.

I'm tired of hearing and watching faces of all this McCains, Obamas, Ron Pauls, Clintons and other Americans which our newspapers and other media write about daily/weekly.

Elections are one big show, the more currupt the country is the bigger the show.
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