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9 January 2008 | 14:06 | Source: Reuters
WASHINGTON -- U.S. President George W. Bush on Tuesday said he wants Turkey to be admitted to the European Union.


He said it would be "in the interests of peace," describing Ankara as a bridge between Europe and the Muslim world

"Turkey sets a fantastic example for nations around the world to see where it's possible to have a democracy that co-exists with a great religion like Islam," Bush said at a White House meeting with Turkish President Abdullah Gul.

"I strongly believe that Europe will benefit when Turkey is a member of the European Union," Bush added. "It's in the interests of peace that Turkey be admitted into the EU."

In Gul's first visit to the White House as Turkish president, the two leaders also discussed energy issues and the Kurdistan Workers Party, which Bush called "a common enemy."

"It's an enemy to Turkey, it's an enemy to Iraq and it's an enemy to people who want to live in peace. The United States, along with Turkey, are confronting these folks and we will continue to confront them for the sake of peace," Bush said.
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Whatever kind of peace this is, I don't think it's wanted or needed.
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Whatever kind of peace this is, I don't think it's wanted or needed.
Perhaps the kind of peace we would get if Turkish minorities grew to 50% of all of Europe, and we all just converted to Islam?
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Perhaps the kind of peace we would get if Turkish minorities grew to 50% of all of Europe, and we all just converted to Islam?
You are clearly ironizing...

But - purely hypothetically speaking - even in that case there is a high probability that there wouldn't be any peace. Imagine different parts of Europe converting to different sects and subdivisions of Islam...

Germany becoming Sunni, France accepting the Shia, Poland taking Ismailism as its official religion, while Sicily becomes home of Alewism etc etc.

Peace? Hardly.
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Bush -- like most Americans -- specialises in baseless assertions that have no underlying argument or logic. Why would it assist "peace?" If there were real journalists at the White House (instead of a platoon of obseqious and servile lackeys posing as such), someone might ask just such a searching qustion.

Bush, Turkey is not Europe. Turks are not Europeans. How then can Turkey be incorporated into the EU? And if you incorporate a non-European nations such as the Turks, where do you stop? Might as well include Iraq by the same logic, and keep moving east -- Iran, Pakistan, India.
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Bush -- like most Americans -- specialises in baseless assertions that have no underlying argument or logic. Why would it assist "peace?" If there were real journalists at the White House (instead of a platoon of obseqious and servile lackeys posing as such), someone might ask just such a searching qustion.

Bush, Turkey is not Europe. Turks are not Europeans. How then can Turkey be incorporated into the EU? And if you incorporate a non-European nations such as the Turks, where do you stop? Might as well include Iraq by the same logic, and keep moving east -- Iran, Pakistan, India.
Turkey is part of the american strategical and economical goal of getting oil from Iraq to Europe bypassing Russia.

Plus it is part of the strategy of the freemasonic finance for unyfing Europe with the middle east and North Africa, the Eurabia project: it has both a political and economical value.

For the latter, it has economical value since it will increase the value of the turkish stocks and of european stocks, turkey is seen as a promising market.

Just like immigration is seen as good for economic growth since its creates market occasions, increasing demand of housing and services as well as the demand for consumer goods.

The free market doctrine rules the world, even if some economist like the italian Tremonti, once free market evangelist, have started to become critical of such political follies as the ones described above, since they will carry out the ruin of Europe.
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You are right, Breha. By the way, if you can read French do have a look at the attached document that I posted in the Gallo-Romance forum...

Transfigurations européennes: Eurafrique et Eurasie

.. which I suspect that it can give some clues at the origins of this North African Eurabia and the conflict with Russia, in the proposal of Eurafica by the Austrian Freemason Pan-Europeanist Coudenhove-Kalergi and the proposal of Eurasia by the Russian Freemason Nikolai Trubetzkoy.

Anyway, Turkey is a preference allied of America and its entry in the European Union is the reward that America has for it. The next in line preference allied is Morocco.

It makes you wonder what all those Brussels and London Liberal / Neo-Con who praise America while whine about Islam, are about.
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