Black woman kidnapped, tortured and raped by White Trash gang

[kimm]

Complete animals. People like this shower of morons are two legged dogs of the highest order. They should be catagorized as a race in their own right, come to think of it.

[Theobald]

Oh, I see that I have again created a polémique among Stirpes' French members...

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Who are you talking about when you say they ?
The French term "Beauf" is not the equivalent of the American "White Trash" IMO.

Just compare the genesis of the two terms : everything conservative and working-class was called 'beauf' in France by the left (Charlie Hebdo style). White Trash is another phenomenum (but I don't deny that we have it here).

Well, the term beauf has many different meanings and definitions; and what I understand by beauf is quite similar to the American White Trash, and of course not the gauche caviar definition. I basically disagree with this Charlie Hebdo definition because there are many worthy and intelligent people among conservative working-class people, though beaufs are probably majoritary from what I have seen during my short experience of life; and I have a popular background as well but never acted like these people nor did my parents and relatives.
The main difference between beaufs' "political opinions" and ours, and why I oppose them, is that love (for our Nation) is our main motivation, while theirs is hate, hate of anything foreign, of anything they don't understand with their petty, stupid and narrow mind.

Beauf is a French term describing a person thought to be vulgar, unintelligent, uncaring, violent, greedy, bigoted, racist, chauvinistic.
A classical example is the cliché army non-commissioned officer : uneducated, vulgar, somewhat alcoholic, brutal, and nostalgic of the colonial wars.
It is difficult to define precisely what is beauf and what he is not, since, to some extent, this is a subjective judgment. A beauf is essentially a Frenchman whose understanding and curiosity does not extend beyond his everyday environment. The worst specimen are vulgar, narrow minded and insensitive. One could say, for instance, that vacationing in a camping-car is beauf. Muscle cars and, more general, big sport cars with custom design are also generally considered beauf.
Beauf implies some bad taste, perhaps some campness. Some consider the garden gnome to be beauf.

Originally Posted by Plethon

Is beauf etymologically related to boeuf?

No. Beauf is an abbreviation of beau-frère (brother-in-law) - since the first representation of the beauf was the brother-in-law of a cartoon hero (Duduche if I'm not mistaken).

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Try to explain that difference to the average guy who think that every nationalist is a Nazi.

Yes, that's precisely what we shall try to do, unless we won't attract anyone but skinheads and - precisely - beaufs.

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Which non-Europeans ? Non-Europeans are not a united group, there are dumb people and intelligent people in every country.

But obviously, most of those who are present in our soil are rather members of the "Trash" category :
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Of course, I do not deny this. But I have to admit that I have more often than not seen much respect - I fail to find a better word - among older non-Europeans living here. Which does not mean that they have any right to live in Europe, anyway.

Originally Posted by svin

Of course there are retards among 'whites'. But I still prefer them to educated muslims. I mean, retards among Russians now. Not among Americans.

Talk about choosing the lesser evil...

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Beauf has become a synonymous for an average French with prejudices against strangers, likely to vote FN. In a nutshell: what's "populaire". It's quite pejorative. I think that redneck could be a better term for beauf, but still not quite so.

Well, I think I have answered this statement above. That's not my understanding of this term.

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Theobald shaking his neighbors' hands.

I am not sure that I got your point. But if you charge me with sarkozysm because I don't feel love and admiration towards beaufs it's likely that either you have never had to live them or... you are one ?

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Theobald

I am not sure that I got your point. But if you charge me with sarkozysm because I don't feel love and admiration towards beaufs it's likely that either you have never had to live them or... you are one ?

Indeed, I've lived in none of the two communities. And you have lived among Muslims in Sarcelles, maybe? Come on...

When you first mentioned Muslims (and not elder non-Europeans as you did then), my first impression was that you were exaggerating and the photography of a shaking hands politician popped to mind. The archetypal elitist.

No polemic of any sort as for me, I understand what you mean. I just added a comment that I thought was on purpose. I agree with you, I've a popular background as well, and as though my grand-parents were working class they wouldn't have fit in the description of your average vulgar and coarse "beauf". So there.

[Cirrus]

Originally Posted by Theobald

The main difference between beaufs' "political opinions" and ours, and why I oppose them, is that love (for our Nation) is our main motivation, while theirs is hate, hate of anything foreign, of anything they don't understand with their petty, stupid and narrow mind.

OK, I see, but what do you exactly mean by hate ?
Anyway, you recognize that those people are a minority. It seemed to me that you said all working-class FN-voters were beaufs.

Originally Posted by Theobald

Yes, that's precisely what we shall try to do, unless we won't attract anyone but skinheads and - precisely - beaufs.

That's what the FN did for 30 years. But for what result ?

Originally Posted by Theobald

Of course, I do not deny this. But I have to admit that I have more often than not seen much respect - I fail to find a better word - among older non-Europeans living here. Which does not mean that they have any right to live in Europe, anyway.

The thing is that all of the different non-European communities here don't act the same, because of their culture, their background, their history, etc...
But obviously, this is not our problem but theirs.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Breha

It is likely that a serious welfare system might have prevented this by providing the perpetrators with the timely mental assistance they clearly need, but the U.S. will never learn the european lesson of a public health system.

America would never take the European model of helath care. Given how corrupt American politicans are it would cost more then it should and funds would be diverted to unneccessary needs. Not only that but the American media always paints European model of health care negatively and american believe it, even though a simple look at the facts show that American media lies on the issue and that they use illogical methods to make their claims.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

America would never take the European model of helath care. Given how corrupt American politicans are it would cost more then it should and funds would be diverted to unneccessary needs. Not only that but the American media always paints European model of health care negatively and american believe it, even though a simple look at the facts show that American media lies on the issue and that they use illogical methods to make their claims.

In fact, even the Americans who advocate state sponsored health-care, have such a caricatured and distorted view of it, that the system they would endorse bears little or no resemblance at all to its European counterpart.

For example, recently a would-be Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards endorsed the introduction of the public and free health-care system in America, but simultanoeously pointed out that it that case Americans should actually be obliged by law to undergo regular medical examinations, even if they don't want to.

[PaleoYankee]

"America would never take the European model of helath care. Given how corrupt American politicans are it would cost more then it should and funds would be diverted to unneccessary needs. Not only that but the American media always paints European model of health care negatively and american believe it, even though a simple look at the facts show that American media lies on the issue and that they use illogical methods to make their claims."

While the media does lie about european health care, I still don;t think socialized medicine could ever work in the USA. The US is far too diverse, and it has a porous border with a third world country. Milton Friedman once said something along the lines "You cannot have an open border and a welfare state." He was right.

Also, anyone who thinks this is common ought to take a look at the black-on-white crime stats. You'll see that the opposite occuring is far more common.

[PaleoYankee]

"Also, anyone who thinks this is common ought to take a look at the black-on-white crime stats. You'll see that the opposite occuring is far more common."

This is the closest source I can find now. I know there's a better one I read before, but I just can find it right now.

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[Menydh]

Originally Posted by PaleoYankee

While the media does lie about european health care, I still don;t think socialized medicine could ever work in the USA. The US is far too diverse, and it has a porous border with a third world country. Milton Friedman once said something along the lines "You cannot have an open border and a welfare state." He was right.

This yet another typical difference between the mind of Americans and of Europeans.

Americans see everything in terms of "the others", which is how they hope to excuse everything.

The truth however is another. I'll give you an example of something that I learned a few years ago about the American social ways. Something at which any European would be enraged, if it ever happened here.

Some [White] American told me that he was suffering from a certain medical condition. The said medical condition would not allow him to work, while he was under treatment. And he did need to undergo treatment for his problem. So he said that everything would be alright while his workplace medical insurance covered it. However, due to the long term required for treatment, he would lose his job and subsequently his medical insurance (not right away, though). For the record, I'll add that his job was in a public office, not private (this is a note to Europeans, it doesn't have the same meaning for Americans).

I didn't see why that should be a problem. Often health services here are better than private ones. And, believe me, that I know what I'm talking about. Only in the last years we are seeing a shameful move towards the American model. And many of those private cliniques are more related to marketing than they are to medicine.

To give you an example, I'll use one such private clinique here of a luxurious and lavish outlook. A few years ago I asked my father about it. He said: "well, they just deal with easy cases that don't need complex surgery and..", at this point I already knew that he did not even consider it surgery, properly speaking, and not without good reason "... when they have a more difficult case that requires some surgery, they call [he gave me two names]".

I didn't know those two names, he told me that they were two MDs in the public health hospital, in the department where he is the director. They did not belong to his surgical team.. not exactly among the brightest under his direction. I would have known the names, if they had been. Further to that, he had already seen a number of patients with complications, after having gone through that or other private cliniques here, and other parts of the country.

So the bottomline is that you have a public health service that is of a quality better than the private practice. However it has no few problems and it is not the comfortable and luxurious of those private cliniques. And you would like to think that this is because of some Socialist system. But no. It is actually the result of one of the most Conservative systems that I've known of, namely the social system created under the regime of General F. Franco. I mean Conservative as in.. Conservative. I've learned that a same word being used in an American context, it comes with a total different meaning, more often than not.

And it is fair that it is so. Medicine is a Science in the service of Man, not a bloody business for unscrupulous profiteering merchants. A hospital is a hospital, not a damn bazaar shop. Europe is not America.

Back to my American, he told me that if he lost his job he would lose his medical insurance, and then he would have to ask for a bank credit to pay for his treatment, and to survive.

The most shocking thing is that --after we discussed about the different systems-- he still had the stomach to call the system in Europe a "nunny state", as if there was something wrong in it.

So you see, Yankee. We do care about our own people. And more so us, who are nationalists. We refuse to see our own people being abandoned as lepers, left on a cold street. And because we do, we do not use immigration as an excuse. Of course we do oppose to the use and the abuse by immigrants of OUR social and health services. But dignity prevents us from using that as an excuse to wanting to see a system that has to serve our peoples, dismantled.. to the benefit of merchants.

And politically speaking, the mind of the Europeans is as far away as from that of Americans, as are Europeans from Africans. No matter which label system you use to name your political stance.

There is only ONE way for us: those whose roots are not here (and those whose roots were transplanted elsewhere), simply do not belong here and can only have a visitor's right to whatever is left, after being used to the service of the native peoples of Europe.

Also, anyone who thinks this is common ought to take a look at the black-on-white crime stats. You'll see that the opposite occuring is far more common.

It is not a matter of how common it is in the black-on-white vs white-on-black general issue. Those criminals belong to a group which is far more reduced than the overall white population. They belong to a naught point naught-naugh-little per cent of the White American population, which is identified as the White Trash, White Nationalist gang.

So it is statistically VERY significative.


p.s. as I do believe that it is significative that you label yourself a "something-conservative" yet you side with the WN gang at the first chance. To be safe, always bear in mind that behind the façade of an American, there is a swindle.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by PaleoYankee

While the media does lie about european health care, I still don;t think socialized medicine could ever work in the USA. The US is far too diverse, and it has a porous border with a third world country. Milton Friedman once said something along the lines "You cannot have an open border and a welfare state." He was right.

Which is why Canada is doing perfectly fine with socialised medicine and the largest expanse of undefended border in the world, right?

Canada is far more diverse than the USA and yet somehow the healthcare system here works just fine.

Just a point to make.

Originally Posted by Susi

Which is why Canada is doing perfectly fine with socialised medicine and the largest expanse of undefended border in the world, right?

Canada is far more diverse than the USA and yet somehow the healthcare system here works just fine.

Just a point to make.

In Canada healthcare is rationed. Persons who can afford it travel to the US for treatment. And as to the largest expanse of undefended border in the world; that border is with the US. Just to make a point.

[PaleoYankee]

"Which is why Canada is doing perfectly fine with socialised medicine and the largest expanse of undefended border in the world, right?

Canada is far more diverse than the USA and yet somehow the healthcare system here works just fine.

Just a point to make."

You should check you numbers before you make a comment about diversity. Also, you do not share a border with a third world country who leaders idea of an economic plans is to send as many poor people north as possible.

[Sifjar]

Originally Posted by Blood Axis

That's the obvious outcome of countless generations of trailer trash inbreeding

It's the environment not the breeding!

[PaleoYankee]

"We do care about our own people"

Yes, you can care about your own people. Not so in america. What we do offer in government services is already being strained. Hospitals in border states that are required to treat every one who comes in are going broke and shutting down.

"And you would like to think that this is because of some Socialist system. But no. It is actually the result of one of the most Conservative systems that I've known of, namely the social system created under the regime of General F. Franco. I mean Conservative as in.. Conservative. "

I actually don;t have a problem with some socialism or Francisco Franco. I just wouldn't want to live under either of them.

"And because we do, we do not use immigration as an excuse. Of course we do oppose to the use and the abuse by immigrants of OUR social and health services. But dignity prevents us from using that as an excuse to wanting to see a system that has to serve our peoples, dismantled.. to the benefit of merchants"

WHile i did talk about our border eith Mexico, when did I say that diversity only dealt with immigrants. I think regions like the south and New England are too different to be under the same system. If there is some goverment care it should be more localized so that the people providing for care know better about what is needed.

"And politically speaking, the mind of the Europeans is as far away as from that of Americans, as are Europeans from Africans."

One of the main reasons I oppose white nationalism.

"p.s. as I do believe that it is significative that you label yourself a "something-conservative" yet you side with the WN gang at the first chance. To be safe, always bear in mind that behind the façade of an American, there is a swindle."

That is just a stupid comment. I didn't side with white nationalists, I just simply made the point that the opposite is more common. I did it because I always hear people bitch about the anglelic blacks and the evil white man. This is just a buch of nonsense.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by PaleoYankee

Yes, you can care about your own people. Not so in america.

It is good that you admit it.

What we do offer in government services is already being strained. Hospitals in border states that are required to treat every one who comes in are going broke and shutting down.

Do you believe that we don't have our hospitals collapsed and over-abused by immigrants?