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An embarrassing interview has emerged in which Christine Boutin, Minister of Housing and the City in Sarkozy’s government answers the question “Could Bush has been behind the attacks?” with “I think it’s possible.“

The interview dates from November 2006, before she was appointed. Her arguments are, to say the least, weird. Here’s a translation:

"I think it’s possible. And I think it even more because the sites that discuss this issue are sites with high numbers of visitors. As I’m very sensitive to the issue of new information and communication technology, I’m saying to myself that these expressions by the masses and the people can’t be without truth."

No doubt Boutin will claim that she was tricked, or that the quote is taken out of context, but this is not the first time she has been controversial. She has expressed herself against homosexuality, has been criticized for homophobia, and at one time waved a bible in the Assembly.


Minister: Bush could have been behind 9/11 [Frogsmoke.com]
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Secondo Christine Boutin, ministro delle Politiche urbane e degli alloggi
Ministro Francia: "Bush dietro attentati 11/9"
Intervista durante la campagna elettorale: «Se i siti che lo affermano sono i più cliccati, vuol dire che c'è qualche verità»


PARIGI – Bush dietro gli attentati dell’11 settembre? Possibile. Almeno secondo Christine Boutin, esponente della maggioranza del presidente francese Nicolas Sarkozy, oggi ministro delle Politiche urbane e degli alloggi. Sarebbe il primo caso di un politico di un governo occidentale a rimettere in dubbio la teoria che vuole Bin Laden come istigatore dell’attacco alle Torri Gemelle.
VIDEO - A inchiodare la Boutin, un video che circola in Internet. Qualche mese fa, in piena campagna pre-elettorale, l'attuale ministra era ospite di una trasmissione di un noto giornalista francese. Durante l’intervista di rito ecco la domanda fatidica: secondo lei, Bush può essere all’origine degli attentati dell’11 settembre? La risposta è immediata: «Penso sia possibile».
PROVE - La Boutin però non argomenta con prove alla mano, ma si basa su una pura constatazione: «Il fatto che i siti che rimettono in causa l’11 settembre siano visitati ogni giorno da milioni di navigatori, mi spingono a pensare che l’espressione della massa e del popolo non possa non basarsi su un fondo di verità».

IMBARAZZI - Il video non è sfuggito a reopen911.info, uno dei principali portali che si prefigge di fare chiarezza sulla prima ondata di attentati da sempre attribuiti ad Al Qaeda, e che ha deciso di utilizzarlo come spot. Uno spot, che se dovesse trasformarsi in «tormentone» sulla rete, potrebbe mettere in imbarazzo il governo di François Fillon, progettato da Sarkozy che non ha mai nascosto le sue affinità con il presidente americano George W. Bush.

Source: Ministro Francia: "Bush dietro attentati 11/9" - Corriere della Sera



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Now it seems hardly possible, but who knows...
It wouldn't surprise me though if the Bush was just a puppet, controlled by some powerful individuals. Individuals who have their agenda, and human life means little or nothing to them.
I don't know about you, but I think Bush is an idiot. At least he appears to be one. How can an idiot run the world's superpower?

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Maybe in some 100 yrs from now, pupils will learn about America's imperialism and insanity caused by oil and $$$.


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Bush himself would have trouble conspiring to make a sandwich let alone carry out 9/11 but I would not say the same for his team as a whole. I think a few people in key positions helped clear the way for a "new Pearl Harbour". The question is who played the role of the Japanese Imperial Navy in this modern version? I would say friends of Israel and those who want to maintain US control over the world's petroleum market. It is they who would benefit most from the transformation of the Arab/Muslim world by force which would follow such an attack.

It is worth noting that the official FBI "Wanted Poster" does not list the attacks of 9/11 as one of Bin Laden's suspected crimes. The FBI clearly feels it does not have enough evidence to proceed with in a court of law.

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I have always liked Christine Boutin since she was called an "old fascist bitch" by our former Socialist PM because she opposed homosexual marriage. She also waved a Bible in the French National Assembly during PACS discussions. She is definitely not your average pseudo-conservative.
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Hmm, it is best for us if the moslem are culprits.

After all they are the ones who are flocking to Europe: hebrews are manipulating us badly but at least they are not coming here by the hundreed thousands.

What I suspect is that the hebrews could know well arab-moslem plots and maneuvers, but they would gladly let them do it.

Jihad is a 1300 years old phenomenon, Europe has been under islamic siege far before the dispersed jews could have any influence on it.
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Quite a weird argument this one:
"I think it’s possible. And I think it even more because the sites that discuss this issue are sites with high numbers of visitors."

Totally agree, this woman shows a very low level of intelligence, if she thinks that numbers mean quality.

Visitors are attracted by the utter enormousness of such an hypothesis, period.

But democratic politicians are primitive, democracy is based on numbers, high numbers win elections.

That it be quality that wins, that's another story, but the numbers taboo still is the most sacred.
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Quite a weird argument this one:
"I think it’s possible. And I think it even more because the sites that discuss this issue are sites with high numbers of visitors."
What's weird about that? It's democratic logic.
Seriously, I am staying far, far away from anything related to 9/11 conspiracies. They will not do us any good, and no one will ever know if the claims made by these, well, internet loonies are true.
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Seriously, I am staying far, far away from anything related to 9/11 conspiracies. They will not do us any good, and no one will ever know if the claims made by these, well, internet loonies are true.
I think that's a very sensible position. 9/11 is such a vast and complex topic that even the most trustworthy sources are a labyrinth of data and speculation. In any case, it is totally outside our power to influence the American debate because the Americans themselves are very unlikely to want to find out what really happened. It would transform their entire political structure if some of the more believable theories turn out to be true.
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Muslims are definitely too nice to commit attacks.
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Well, some people have accepted the "conspiracy" version of the 9/11 attacks as a dogma.

As for myself, I don't easily buy into "conspiracy theories", but in this case I think we can say that there are strong indications that the attacks were not performed by the "pilots" alone, but were assisted by some people (agents?) form the ground.

Of course, it is crystal clear and undeniable that the 19 attackers were Muslim-Arabs, Saudis. But the way the attack was carried out, in such a perfect manner, with the two buildings collapsing so smoothly, point to the fact that the 19 terrorist must have had some help from the ground (or they were natural born geniuses?) It is possible that those assistants were agent-provocators of the American secret services, masquerading as islamists. Frankly, to me it seems impossible that this small group could have done all the work alone, assisted solely by Osama ben Laden, who steered the whole operation from some Afghanistani cave.

And there is another detail: in 2000 the "Project for the New American Century", a neocon think tank, issued a document called "Rebuilding American defense", in which they, in cover terms, of course, expressed a hope of some new Pearl Harbor to happen in near future, a catastrophic event which would serve as a catalyst for America to take the "world leadership" in its hands, by imposing the American world order all around the world, through the force of arms first and foremost.

Of course, these are only indications, as I already said. More evidence would be needed to prove it. I am always very critical of people who accept the conspiracy version as some sort of unquestionable "truth".

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It's a moot point: if 9/11 hadn't happened (regardless of who was behind it), Bush and his handlers would have concocted some other pretext for the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq. We know that neo-con ideologues had already formulated plans for invasion and annexation as part of the "New American Century."
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