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This is how a "conservative" American commentator, a Zionist war-monger and defender of the "White Western civilization" Lawrence Auster, sees the whole thing:

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Why we call the massacre "senseless"

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coverage and commentary on the Virginia Tech massacre I see no signs that America has learned the lesson it needs to learn if such events are to be prevented in the future. Thus President Bush and many others call the crime "senseless." But there was nothing senseless about it. A young man, deeply alienated and isolated and filled with hatred, was descending ever deeper into demonism and openly revealing his homicidal impulses and imaginings to the people around him. This is a well-known phenomenon. Something very similar happened just a few years ago in Littleton, Colorado. The pattern is understood. There was nothing senseless about the killer's behavior. It was entirely intelligible.

The horror crying out to be explained here is not the killer's motives and actions, but society's failure to stop him even though he had clearly and repeatedly manifested his sick and murderous thoughts. People don't want to try to explain society's failure to stop him, because that would require criticizing the ruling beliefs of society that precluded his being stopped: the belief that there is nothing higher than the self and its desires; the belief that everyone should be free to express himself; the belief that we should not judge people; the belief that institutions have no legitimate authority in themselves but exist only to serve the needs of individuals.
Thus, while several students and teachers were concerned about Cho,--he was so scary that some students avoided coming to a writing class he attended--no one did anything beyond asking that he be "referred" for "counseling." True, one teacher, according to Andrea Peyser in today's New York Post, went so far as to try to have him "removed" (though Peyser, showing the outstanding reportorial and thinking skills so typical of today's journalists, doesn't make it clear whether she means removed from the class or removed from the school), but the administration refused to do so because that would violate Cho's "freedom of speech." Now if you were in that situation, with a student who you thought might be a school shooter, would you accept that answer? I know I wouldn't. I would go back o the university administration, I would go to the university president, I would go to the local police, I would say, here is a young man who is a danger to society, you must do something about this. But no one did that. Because our liberal attitudes and laws militate against doing anything to restrain an obvious menace to society until he has actually committed a crime.
We call Cho's act "senseless" because we don't want to acknowledge that evil exists, and that society has a duty to take forceful action to prevent it. To see these truths would require that we give up our nonjudgmental belief system; so we choose not to see them. Instead we talk about the "senselessness" of the crime, thus giving ourselves a complete pass from thinking either about the reality of evil or about our liberal beliefs that make it impossible for us to oppose evil. The maintenance of the liberal order requires that people not think.
What would our society have done if it did not subscribe to its present liberal beliefs? Very simply, it would have isolated this person from the community by committing him to a mental institution, just as it would have done in, say, 1950--without confusion, embarrassment, or apology. Pre-1960s America did not impotently call homicidal insanity "senseless"; it called it a danger to society, a danger from which society must protect itself by means of decisive and authoritative action. The commonsensical, non-liberal measures I have pointed to are beyond the imaginings of modern people, including most conservatives. Unable to conceive of the only step that could have blocked the fiend Cho on his path to mass murder, mainstream opinion-makers in the wake of that atrocity are left tossing off and contentiously debating an endless series of nostrums and bromides, all of them absurd in themselves and irrelevant to the actual problem at hand. Recalling the insight that liberalism requires people to be irrational, we realize that this futile, distracting, and depressing discussion is nothing other than a core ritual of liberal society, by which it renews its very essence: every time some new atrocity is committed that was licenced by the liberal permissiveness that no one in liberal society dreams of challenging, liberals and conservatives alike begin running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
Why we call the massacre "senseless"

Basically, he is calling for more totalitarian control of our lives. Maybe that's what the whole hysteria about "terrorism" is about. Such cases cannot be avoided. Anytime someone can run amok, take guns in his hands and shoot at random. It is part of the risk of life.

Of course, allowing immigration can bring about a higher incidence of such cases. That is one of the reasons why immigration is bad. But events like this one cannot be prevented absolutely. The whole life is a risk.

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The sister of the killer works for the American occupation administration of Iraq and their parents own and operate a dry cleaning laundry. So America got three loyal little worker ants and one homocidal killer when they imported this Korean family.

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The sister of the gunman responsible for the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history works as a contractor for a State Department office that oversees billions of dollars in American aid for Iraq.

Sun-Kyung Cho is employed by the Iraq Reconstruction Management Office, according to U.S. officials and a State Department staff directory that says she works from an annex near the department's headquarters in Washington.

Messages left on her office voicemail, in which she identifies herself as ``Sun Cho,'' were not immediately returned on Wednesday.

The Virginia Tech gunman was her brother, Cho Seung-Hui. Thirty-three people died in the rampage Monday, including the 23-year-old student, who committed suicide.

Spokesman Sean McCormack declined to discuss Sun Cho's status but told reporters ``this person is not a direct-hire employee of the State Department.'' He declined to comment further, citing privacy concerns. Other U.S. officials confirmed she works for a contractor.

The office was set up by President Bush to coordinate the reconstruction program in Iraq and offers jobs to ``highly skilled and motivated United States citizens'' to work at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, according to State Department documents. The office also has several Washington-based positions.

``Our mission is to support the sovereign, democratic rights of the Iraqi people to govern themselves, defend their country, and rebuild their economy,'' the office says in its recruiting brochure. ``This ongoing mission is one that is unprecedented in size and scope.''

Sun Cho's current job is her third stint with the State Department, according to Princeton University, where she graduated with an economics major in 2004.

She previously worked as a summer intern at the department's International Labor Office and held a three-month economics internship in the summer before her senior year at the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand, sponsored by Princeton's International Internship Program.

``They were the most amazing three months of my life,'' Cho told the university's weekly bulletin in Nov. 24, 2003, article about the program, describing her experiences in the Thai capital.

``I found that the best way to get to know the city was taking the skytrain to random locations and walking around for a couple of hours,'' it quoted her as saying.

``I think it is always easy for Americans to maintain an American way of life abroad. The best thing is to avoid these traps and go out there and immerse yourself in a new culture.''

The article described a visit to a border town where she saw deplorable working conditions for Burmese migrant workers.

``She said the experience was so profound that after returning to campus, she changed the focus of her senior thesis to a more labor-related topic,'' the article said.
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The statement of "Corrupt" on the Virginia Tech shooting.

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It is with sadness that the news of the Virginia University shootings reaches us at CORRUPT.




As you are most likely by now aware; on april 16th 2007, Cho Seung Hoi, a student at Virginia Polytechnic, shot dead 32 people on campus and wounded 29 others before also killing himself. We are saddened by the loss of so many promising young lives, including that of Cho Seung Hoi.

Predictably, many in the media are already clambering over themselves in search of something to pin the blame on for this tragedy, with the usual range of secondary issues, such as the availability of firearms, being made the scapegoats for something that has causes clearly running much deeper than they seem willing to accept.

The fact that events of this kind are becoming an increasingly familiar occurrence is a sure sign that something has gone fundamentally wrong within our society.

The world which we have created forces people to detatch from their communities to join a soulless pursuit of wealth and status which affords them little lifestyle security and little time left to spend with their family & friends.

As a consequence we periodically produce alienated young individuals who, out of sheer frustration with the neurosis of modern life, lash out in a frenzy of extreme violence.
From Columbine, to Red Lake and now Virginia Tech, what is perhaps most disturbing and inexplicable to many people is that consistenly such atrocities are commit by isolated but otherwise extremely bright people. The problem is that, though they are for one reason or another inherently determined to be the outsider, they are intelligent enough to recognise where our civilization has gone wrong. Unfortunately they feel powerless to alter it in any significant way and so turn to destruction as an outlet for their despondancy.



Some commentators have tried to pass the actions of the killer off as an anamoly; the exceptional product of a mentally deranged young man. We however say that our current society is producing people that are psychologically disturbed and that our rising rates of teenage suicide, depression and drug use attest that the dissatisfaction that led Cho Seun Hoi to do what he did is not an isolated phenomena.
The easy thing to now do is enact some arbitrary legislation that puts blanket restrictions on personal freedoms. Whilst this might feel like the right thing to do, it would not address the matter at the heart of such sorrowful events as this.
- CORRUPT press secretary

About CORRUPT, inc

CORRUPT are an influential thinktank & civilization watchdog that believe a better future for humans will come by embracing reality and not silly bureaucratic, academic or emotional abstractions. Our goal is to critique the society of our current time and get human civilization back on track with sorting out our actual problems.

www.CORRUPT.org

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Corrupt: Remaking Modern Society (Via Holistic Immanent Transcendence & The Science of Nihilist Zen)


Although I don't subscribe in any way to philosophies like this one (zen, nihilism, etc), I find this statement and the whole website nevertheless interesting and worth reflecting upon.
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