Basque separatism + White Nationalism = Laughter

[Galaico]

I just found this webpage, please take a look to it. It has obviously been done by Americans or perhaps Basque-Americans who surely have never stepped a foot on Basque land.

http://free.volkermord.com/free/white_patriots/

It is so ridiculous and absurd that it is funny.

[Gavril]

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[Silas]

OMFG Loony Nutiz, when will it end?

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Galaico

I just found this webpage, please take a look to it. It has obviously been done by Americans or perhaps Basque-Americans who surely have never stepped a foot on Basque land.

http://free.volkermord.com/free/white_patriots/

It is so ridiculous and absurd that it is funny.

Well, I think Euskal Herria NS has been done by a Basque who lives in London:

EHNS

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Erasmus

a Basque who lives in London

Why doesn't this surprise me??

They are like the Arabs. They want to reach Poitiers. :


Why not Paris and Madrid while they are at it?

This picture is also among the funniest ones :



But my favorite one is still :

[Galaico]

Originally Posted by Theobald

They are like the Arabs. They want to reach Poitiers. :


Why not Paris and Madrid while they are at it?

Curious, I would never have imagined that Bourdeaux was a Basque city

This picture is also among the funniest ones :

This is quite obvious IMO, everybody knows that Basque gentlemen ALWAYS wair a ikurriña t-shirt, and that all Spanish men are gypsy bailaores.

But my favorite one is still :

One ticket to watch bullfighting in Las Ventas: 50€
Hat to protect yourself from the sun: 10€
Bottle of water to resist the hot afternoon: 2€
Finding a Cocker-Spaniel cute looking "basque" girl: PRICELESS!

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Theobald

Why doesn't this surprise me??

They are like the Arabs. They want to reach Poitiers. :


Why not Paris and Madrid while they are at it?

This picture is also among the funniest ones :



But my favorite one is still :

What makes me laugh is that they try to claim any relationship with the Third Reich but, as basques are not IE, third reich theoritiens and ideologist felt no interest for them

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Theobald

They are like the Arabs. They want to reach Poitiers.

Not to tell how they collaborated with arabs by betraying Charlemagne and cowardly slaughtering Roland and his men at Roncesvaux

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

What makes me laugh is that they try to claim any relationship with the Third Reich but, as basques are not IE, third reich theoritiens and ideologist felt no interest for them

I don't know what the incidence for red hair is in Spain and among its regions, but the one place where that red haired girl in the picture would stand out most is in the Basque Country. Even in Andalusia you can find more incidences of red hair than in the Basque Country. Ditto for blonde hair.

In any case, being of UP origin, I don't think that red hair has any links with the Paki.. ops! sorry... I mean Indo-Europeans.

About the bullfighter.. what can I say? Again a denial of the obvious. Bullfighting is popular and traditional all around the Basque Country: San Sebastián/Donosti, Bilbao/Bilbo, Vitoria/Gasteiz; in Bayona (Iparralde), which is the French occupied Basque Province; Northern Navarra: Estella, Tafalla, Tudela, Pamplona/Iruña.

In fact the festivals of all those towns and cities (and more up to nearly every small town) include bull running and/or bull fighting.

Later I'll post about the supposed ancestral symbold of the Basque race, the lauburu.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

Not to tell how they collaborated with arabs by betraying Charlemagne and cowardly slaughtering Roland and his men at Roncesvaux

Well.. the story is not that easy..

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Quasigodo Garcia

Well.. the story is not that easy..

I can but agree with you. According to history books the baskes were responsible for the killing of Roncesvaux, according to a Middle Age version of the Chanson de Roland there's no mention of baskes but just about outnumbering Sarracins who catch up Rolands rear gard at the col of Roncesvaux...

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

I can but agree with you. According to history books the baskes were responsible for the killing of Roncesvaux, according to a Middle Age version of the Chanson de Roland there's no mention of baskes but just about outnumbering Sarracins who catch up Rolands rear gard at the col of Roncesvaux...

Well, no. I didn't mean that.

First off, Charlemagne did not come to Hispania to help the Christians against the Muslims. Charlemagne came to help the Muslim Governor of Saragossa on a rebelion against the Emir, Adh-al-Rahman I.

The intention of Charlemagne was probably to establish another marche to protect his kingdom, like that of the Marca Hispanica. Don't forget that the activity of the Marca Hispanica (later Catalunya) in the Reconquista starts after it was freed from Carolingian suzerainty.

So, at all practical effects, Charlemagne was an invader in Hispania.

Secondly, it is not known who attacked the army of Charlemagne in Roncesvalles.

There are three hypotheses:

• The Vascones from the southern side of the Pyrenees alone;
• A coalition of Vascones with Muslims. If these Muslims were the Banu Qasi, overlords of the area, then they were the descendents of Count Casius and therefore Hispano-Goths;
• A league of Vascones from Hispania and Aquitania, angry at the policies of Charlemagne in Aquitania.

Has it ever occured to you why Charlemagne, having the power and strength to do it, he never set on a Crusade to drive Islam out of Spain?


¡Mala la hubistes, franceses,
en esa de Roncesvalles!

[Menydh]

Not only the people represented there are nothing Basque (except some due to admixture with N. Europeans), but the lauburu, the symbol that they present as an ancestral Basque symbol, is nothing Basque.

The lauburu takes its origins in the theories Basco-Cantabrists of the XVII and XVIII centuries. They take the Cantabrian labaro (labarum) and adapt it to Basque mythology. In Basque, lau means "four" and buru means "head". So they took the symbols of the Cantabrian estelas or labaros, and adapted it in form and in name.

The earliest Basque lauburu found dates back to the XVII century. It was on a cemetry.

Those symbols belonged to Cantabrians, or to the tribes that the Vascones displaced after the fall of Rome, the Autrigones.

P.S. more informacion (in Spanish):
http://es.geocities.com/orgenomescos...arolauburu.htm

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

What makes me laugh is that they try to claim any relationship with the Third Reich but, as basques are not IE, third reich theoritiens and ideologist felt no interest for them

I think that they don't know either that Hitler was thinking of giving French Basque provinces to Spain - if Franco had let German army invade Gibraltar. I don't think Hitler ever thought of an independent Basque country. Perhaps some SS theoricians though, the ones who wanted an "Europe of regions" under German sovereignty.
What a bunch of morons...

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Quasigodo Garcia

Has it ever occured to you why Charlemagne, having the power and strength to do it, he never set on a Crusade to drive Islam out of Spain?

See no attack here, Mynydd, I don't want another endless debate, but... it seems to me that Charlemagne was already expanding the Frankish empire towards the East (against Saxons, Avars, slavic tribes, ...) and defending Christendom against pagan invaders so he wasn't probably strong enough to expand his Kingdom towards both East and South.
Still he reconquered Northern Spain (Marca Hispanica), developed as the end result of three generations of fighting between the Franks and the Moors. Of course he did it mainly in order to secure Gallic lands (i.e. north of the Pyrenees) but wasn't this the start of Reconquista ?