Basque separatism + White Nationalism = Laughter

[Breogan]

Originally Posted by Galaico

This is getting completely off-topic, but this is how forums work .

Very interesting Breogan, I had never heard about it. But wasn't Galicia freed by the Asturian king Alfonso I . Despite what most "historians" say there was never an effective moorish occupation in Galicia, rather than constant destructive raids.

You're right, Galician Lands were never occupied, just raids. But they were conveniently treated.

[Agrippa]

Dont think the Site from the start of the thread is supposed to be taken really seriously. Rather a caricature.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

Dont think the Site from the start of the thread is supposed to be taken really seriously. Rather a caricature.

You wouldn't say that if you knew the extents of the damages which the Basque secesionism has inflicted onto the Basque Country.

For many decades, generations have been brain-washed in ikastolas (Basque schools) in a way which you couldn't believe. History has been substituted by political agendas, reality by constructed myths. Everything has been distorted to levels of madness.

It is all the more bizarre when you learn that the origins of Basque secesionism are in a branching out of the ultra-Spanish Carlist movement.

In the case of Catalonia, it is possible to make sense of how it came to be since the invisible hand of Freemasonry is clear. In the case of the Basque Country, no one with an IQ level slightly above the border line could make sense of it.

What you see there are the results of decades of ikastola "education".

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Galaico

Very interesting Breogan, I had never heard about it. But wasn't Galicia freed by the Asturian king Alfonso I . Despite what most "historians" say there was never an effective moorish occupation in Galicia, rather than constant destructive raids.

Alfonso I of Asturias emptied the area of the Dorum basin of population and took them to Galicia.

Occupation may not be the right word. In some cases what you got was a vacuum of authority left by the destruction of the army of Hispania. In some other cases there would be only a small garrison in a place "co-living" with a more or less chaotic or anarchic situation in the surrounding area.

Please check out this question from BNG deputy Francisco Rodríguez to the Parlament table in reference to a TV prgramme about Spanish history.

Prof. García de Cortázar is an outstanding historian. However, I have read his Breve Historia de España and Historia de España, de Atapuerca al euro (in the link they mention the former) and found them just that, brief.

You can't expect history to be told in a few pages. I have at home three different collections of the History of Spain, each directed by a different historian (Ramos Oliveira, Tuñón de Lara, and various volumes. And yet, they are just good for reference and little more. You shouldn't venture into drawing many conclusions on any specific events.

[estirpe guerrera]

There aren't a basque race.

this is a new invention of modern basque regionalism, and his creator is called Sabino Arana.
and everybody know , when the romans arrived on Spain (hispania), the basq people was the less civilized people in our territory.
and that is the reason like romans didn't mix with this people, and that is the origin of the especial basque culture.

if anyone hasn't understand me i can explain better in french or spanish.

ESPAÑA UNA Y NO CINQUENTA Y UNA!!!!

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by estirpe guerrera

and everybody know , when the romans arrived on Spain (hispania), the basq people was the less civilized people in our territory.
and that is the reason like romans didn't mix with this people, and that is the origin of the especial basque culture.

Where did you study history? In some slum for opium smokers?

Your statement is as absurd and false as the agendas of Basque independentists.

if anyone hasn't understand me i can explain better in french or spanish.

Good. Try in the forum for Ibero-Romance languages.

ESPAÑA UNA Y NO CINQUENTA Y UNA!!!!

You should explain that there too. I have the suspicion that the Spain that you refer to is nothing Spanish.

By the way, it is "CINCUENTA", not CINQUENTA.

[estirpe guerrera]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Where did you study history? In some slum for opium smokers?

Your statement is as absurd and false as the agendas of Basque independentists.

Good. Try in the forum for Ibero-Romance languages.

You should explain that there too. I have the suspicion that the Spain that you refer to is nothing Spanish.

By the way, it is "CINCUENTA", not CINQUENTA.

I didn't know if you have studied spanihs history, but is better get in silince than your stupid demosntration of inculture.

[Menydh]

I have put you under moderation. Your posts will be moderated before being made public, until you try to stay at the level of this forum.

[estirpe guerrera]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I have put you under moderation. Your posts will be moderated before being made public, until you try to stay at the level of this forum.

ok, excuse me.
but only onething, everything i say is real.

[Menydh]

Fortunately, it is not real.

There has been many errors in the early interpretation of history.

For example, it was believed that the Basques resisted the Romans for longer. This is not true. There is enough evidence of Basque soldiers in the Roman legions. In fact historians argue that the Basques served as allies of the Romans against other tribes of Hispania.

Which would point to the reason why Rome did not bother much with conquering the Basques.

Besides, the lands of the Basques at that time were not convenient for the Roman legions. These were not the modern lands of the Basque Country, but the lands of Northern Navarra and Aragon, the Western Pyrenees mountains.

Further, it has been long stated that the Basques did not fall under Roman influence. This, again, has been proved an error.

Let us not fall in the same mistakes of the independentists.


p.s. I'll lift you the moderation, but please try to argue rationally and without launching unfounded accusations against any Spanish or otherwise European people.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

By the way, it is "CINCUENTA", not CINQUENTA.

Even I knew that. ><

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

By the way, it is "CINCUENTA", not CINQUENTA.

He is a French spy ! (we say "cinquante" here) Hang him!

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Theobald

He is a French spy ! (we say "cinquante" here) Hang him!

LOL! It's not that bad. It is an error preferable to the unaesthetic habit of writing 'k' instead of 'c' or 'qu'.

[Ferran]

Originally Posted by Theobald

He is a French spy ! (we say "cinquante" here) Hang him!

Heh, in Catalan it's cinquanta, so if he's from some part of the Greater Catalonia then he would deserve some consideration.

[estirpe guerrera]

errare humanun est

no??

[Carnyx]

Yes... but... are you even human, Mr... Spy?!