Russian National-Patriots on American WN David Duke

[Menydh]

(from National Patriotic Front Pamyat)

WHAT ARE WESTERN PATRIOTS THINKING ABOUT?!

He is coming! He has already come! To Moscow! Communists and liberals must be in dither! He is going to collect an army of patriots from the whole Europe. Now he will share his experience and money with us, make us delighted, and everything will be excellent. Such thoughts were in Russian patriots heads, when Mr. Le Pen came to Moscow. Russian patriots had even made stakes on his victory during presidential elections in France, like on a horse. However, they had loose. Everybody had loose. All these visits of good-looking foreign leaders begin to make a dispiriting impression. Mr. Le Pen did not gladden real Russian patriots at all, as well as other foreign visitors.

Once upon a time there lived a rosy, white and proud David Duke, who also had visited Moscow many times. He walked around Moscow, made visits, made promises, made drink speeches, made visits again, promised more and drunk more. As a result after such a speech he told to our Leader Dimitry D. Vassiljev, that he really hated communists, had a great respect for Russian nation, Orthodoxy and monarchy, but he was going to build up solid ties to the most popular and powerful party in Russia. If you do not know, which party in modern Russia is the most popular, I will tell you - the communist party. Probably the notorious Russian climate annihilates the brains of such poor devils or Russian bitches, that are brought to them right in the airplane? What sensible person could imagine that at the end of his politic career this smart American would join the communists?

We can understand why David Duke made contacts with neo-pagans. There are no Orthodox patriots in the US and many American patriots have rejected Christian values of European civilization. But ties to communists? Did Mr. Duke come to believe in the communism with nationalist mask? Or is communism and national-socialism - the actual base of many western patriots' doctrines - the same thing? We think that the second thought is right. Our foreign guests show too much delightness of contacts with such people and run like devil from Holy Cross from the doctrine of Monarchy and Orthodox Fascism. These dukes of patriotism have more fun with local odinists and maoists. So they walk round Moscow, united white and proud. Today they say "Yes", tomorrow they will say "No", and tonight they might have talks to baphometh!

The current visit of Mr. Le Pen to Moscow haven't brought anything new. There were all familiar persons on his negotiations - Baburin, Prokhanov, Ivanov-Sukharevsky etc. Sorry, we have forgotten - with French elegance he managed to meet on Russian land with an ukrainian separatist Shkilj. That was really great! Mr. Duke couldn't even imagine to do such a coup! Mr. Le Pen came to meet Russian patriots and had talks to a Rusophobe! Was it a kind of moral sadomazo or just an insult against all Russian people and the idea of nationalism? Or did Mr. Le Pen become crazy after nights with Moscow girls? Do western patriots use their brains or something else while thinking about Russia? When the "perestroyka" had just began, some Western tourists used to visit our country. Many of them thought seriously that Russian people had tails and used to walk around with bears to sing them heart-rending songs. I'm not joking, some "intellectuals" thought it seriously. It seems that so called patriots use to think that Russians will trust every their word.

It would be funny, but it is sadly. It is really sadly that Russian patriots did not managed to unite across Christian faith, across monarchy. Little party bosses walk instead of it in ideological darkness, looking for crazy doctrines and for a new foreign guru who would give them some money, tell them fairy tails and swindle, like a rosy white and proud American used to swindle unlucky Moscow real estate dealers. He will come, tell and swindle. Again.


4.03.2003 Hans Shlesinger, Officer-Politologist of Foreign Department of Front "Pamyat".



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[Rodozashtitnik]

I have doubts that David Duke is a mason and this Pamyat's statement proves that I'm right.
And Le Penn? Well, he's a man who has been supported by jews. That's enough for that "nationlist" frenchman.

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Rodozashtitnik

I have doubts that David Duke is a mason and this Pamyat's statement proves that I'm right.
And Le Penn? Well, he's a man who has been supported by jews. That's enough for that "nationlist" frenchman.

Well, David Duke is a clownish man who's spent the money of his supporters in Las Vegas

You say Le Pen has been supported by jews, what jews?, zionists?, I don't think so, maybe some French citizen with Jewish ancestry, what's the matter?

P.S.: if you have some info, plz, post it. Thanks.

[Rodozashtitnik]

While most French Jews are expected to vote against Le Pen in the runoff, his unofficial adviser on Jewish affairs, Sonia Arrouas, who is Jewish, said that a Le Pen victory might be in the Jews' interests.

"Le Pen is opposed to the Arabs and is, therefore, good for the Jews," Arrouas told the Israeli daily Ha'aretz. "Le Pen is pro-Israel and believes it is the only Western state in the Arab East, and this is why Israel's security and existence is important to him."

j. - Anti-Semitic acts ironically helped French extremist

What kind of nationalist can put a jewish adviser in his party?
There was an information that Le Pen's son in law is a jewish as well.
Le Pen is pro-Israel. Well, that's enough said.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Rodozashtitnik

While most French Jews are expected to vote against Le Pen in the runoff, his unofficial adviser on Jewish affairs, Sonia Arrouas, who is Jewish, said that a Le Pen victory might be in the Jews' interests.

"Le Pen is opposed to the Arabs and is, therefore, good for the Jews," Arrouas told the Israeli daily Ha'aretz. "Le Pen is pro-Israel and believes it is the only Western state in the Arab East, and this is why Israel's security and existence is important to him."

j. - Anti-Semitic acts ironically helped French extremist

What kind of nationalist can put a jewish adviser in his party?
There was an information that Le Pen's son in law is a jewish as well.
Le Pen is pro-Israel. Well, that's enough said.

Le Pen is not known to be pro-Jewish, on the contrary. He has spoken against Jewish influence in France and Europe several times. This source should be checked, it may be meant to discredit Le Pen.

[Marcus Marulus]

David Duke belongs to the American cult "Christian Identity". It is a strange racist and "White Nationalist" religious denomination that claims that Anglo-Saxons are descendants of Ancient Israelites of the ten lost tribes. For them, Anglo-Saxons are the true Chosen People of God. It follows all other peoples of the earth are lesser in value, including most Europeans...

Christian Identity descended from the old, 19th century cult of British Israelism. They are ostensibly anti-Semites, regarding today's Jews as not being the real Israel. The real Judaea/Israel is for them the Anglo-Saxon world. So there is a competition between the British Israel and Jews as to who is the real Israel, who is chosen.... An extremely odd cult.

Stormfront is essentially the voice of the Christian Identity, its "secular" branch. All non-Anglo-Saxons who post in that site and contribute in it, are in a way a kind of suckers. The suposedly all-White ideology of Stromfront seems to me as a trap for Europeans to buy the Anglo-Saxon agenda.

These Russians seeking to ally themselves with Duke are probably terribly misinformed...

[Carnyx]

Well, he's a man who has been supported by jews. That's enough for that "nationlist" frenchman.

A few Jews vote for the FN and support it, yes so what?
Still the FN isn't supported by the whole jewish community and certainly not by those who are influents, far from it.
The media are quite hostile to Le Pen who is neither a racist nor an anti-semite, though they do like to portray him this way.

Le Pen isn't Hitler, the FN isn't a NSDAP beta version and the militants are not fanatic SA planning a "final solution". Wow, a scoop.

There was an information that Le Pen's son in law is a jewish as well.

Do you mean Samuel Maréchal?

Le Pen is pro-Israel. Well, that's enough said.

And yet Le Pen isn't oppose to a nuclear power Iran, is such an opinion shared by many Israelians? He had also sympathy for Saddam Hussein.
Kippa or keffieh? Nationalists should have no cares for this desertic conflict.

Btw, where would you put the jews if Israel no longer existed?

[Rodozashtitnik]

Originally Posted by prometheus

David Duke belongs to the American cult "Christian Identity". It is a strange racist and "White Nationalist" religious denomination that claims that Anglo-Saxons are descendants of Ancient Israelites of the ten lost tribes. For them, Anglo-Saxons are the true Chosen People of God. It follows all other peoples of the earth are lesser in value, including most Europeans...

Christian Identity descended from the old, 19th century cult of British Israelism. They are ostensibly anti-Semites, regarding today's Jews as not being the real Israel. The real Judaea/Israel is for them the Anglo-Saxon world. So there is a competition between the British Israel and Jews as to who is the real Israel, who is chosen.... An extremely odd cult.

Stormfront is essentially the voice of the Christian Identity, its "secular" branch. All non-Anglo-Saxons who post in that site and contribute in it, are in a way a kind of suckers. The suposedly all-White ideology of Stromfront seems to me as a trap for Europeans to buy the Anglo-Saxon agenda.

These Russians seeking to ally themselves with Duke are probably terribly misinformed...

"Pamyat" didn't want to do anything with Duke, that's for sure.
As for as that "chosen cult" I'm disgusted. "Odd" is not strong enough to describe that kikeness.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Btw, where would you put the jews if Israel no longer existed?

New York as the new Jewish state?

[Rodozashtitnik]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

A few Jews vote for the FN and support it, yes so what?
Still the FN isn't supported by the whole jewish community and certainly not by those who are influents, far from it.
The media are quite hostile to Le Pen who is neither a racist nor an anti-semite, though they do like to portray him this way.

Le Pen isn't Hitler, the FN isn't a NSDAP beta version and the militants are not fanatic SA planning a "final solution". Wow, a scoop.

So what? Hm... What kind of a nationalist prefers to have jewish in his party, in his family, or wants a jewish support? You don't have to be Hitler to do that. You've got to be a nationalist and a true Christian. The media all around the world is hostile to the men who called themselves "nationalist". It doesn't matter if they really are. What do you mean by "final solution"? I hope you don't believe in that imaginery "holocaust" thing?

Do you mean Samuel Maréchal?

I don't know his name. How many daughters Le Penn has?

And yet Le Pen isn't oppose to a nuclear power Iran, is such an opinion shared by many Israelians? He had also sympathy for Saddam Hussein.
Kippa or keffieh? Nationalists should have no cares for this desertic conflict.

I think that the war in Iran must concern every nationalist in the world.

Btw, where would you put the jews if Israel no longer existed?

The jewish are "people" without Fatherland. I won't put them anywhere. To me they are nomads. Israel is a not a legitimate state. It's a terroristic one.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

And yet Le Pen isn't oppose to a nuclear power Iran, is such an opinion shared by many Israelians? He had also sympathy for Saddam Hussein.
Kippa or keffieh? Nationalists should have no cares for this desertic conflict.

That's right. I'm only interested in the Muslim world because America and Israel are interested. Their current project to force Iran into submission is only of concern to me because it may force other governments and people to unite in saying "No!" . That would be a real turning point in international politics.

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Btw, where would you put the jews if Israel no longer existed?

If the Americans love them as much as it seems they should give the Jews Arizona or Nevada. The American government ocould hire Disney to build a New Jerusalem in the desert. Of course, they would have to make sure to cut the telephone lines and take away all the satellite dishes so they can't bother the rest of us from their new desert home. It would be good for America too; no more terrrible Hollywood movies, they could bribe their politicians with their own money, they could spend the billions they give to Israel every year on themselves.

[Der]

Originally Posted by prometheus

David Duke belongs to the American cult "Christian Identity". It is a strange racist and "White Nationalist" religious denomination that claims that Anglo-Saxons are descendants of Ancient Israelites of the ten lost tribes. For them, Anglo-Saxons are the true Chosen People of God. It follows all other peoples of the earth are lesser in value, including most Europeans...

Christian Identity descended from the old, 19th century cult of British Israelism. They are ostensibly anti-Semites, regarding today's Jews as not being the real Israel. The real Judaea/Israel is for them the Anglo-Saxon world. So there is a competition between the British Israel and Jews as to who is the real Israel, who is chosen.... An extremely odd cult.

Stormfront is essentially the voice of the Christian Identity, its "secular" branch. All non-Anglo-Saxons who post in that site and contribute in it, are in a way a kind of suckers. The suposedly all-White ideology of Stromfront seems to me as a trap for Europeans to buy the Anglo-Saxon agenda.

These Russians seeking to ally themselves with Duke are probably terribly misinformed...

One must admit that this is hard to belive. Although it is an intrensting theory non the less, have you got any articles that expose this with more detail ?

Originally Posted by Carnyx

The media are quite hostile to Le Pen who is neither a racist nor an anti-semite, though they do like to portray him this way.

That's with every one I wonder why.

Le Pen isn't Hitler, the FN isn't a NSDAP beta version and the militants are not fanatic SA planning a "final solution".

How unfortunate.

Do you mean Samuel Maréchal?

I don't know who that guy is but Bruno Gollnisch who is FNF number 2 after Le Pen is a jew, not only that, he is married to a japonese woman, that sets a grate example.
If anyone is intrested on more about Le Pen and Jews I leave this link:
Den Svenske Nationalsocialisten - DSNS

Btw, where would you put the jews if Israel no longer existed?

Madagascar ?

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Der

Madagascar ?

Very good! But when I thought about this old plan, it seemed to me it would not be fair. The people of Madagascar didn't do anything to deserve that fate. Make the Americans give up some of their land!

[Rodozashtitnik]

Originally Posted by Der

I don't know who that guy is but Bruno Gollnisch who is FNF number 2 after Le Pen is a jew, not only that, he is married to a japonese woman, that sets a grate example.

What kind of a jewish party is that???

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Der

One must admit that this is hard to belive. Although it is an intrensting theory non the less, have you got any articles that expose this with more detail ?

What is hard to believe? That this cult exists? It surely does, this religious denomination and its teachings are all too well known.

Of course, who would believe Anglo-Saxons are descendants of Israel?

Don't know yet o