A debate on the Occidental Dissent, Forum Stirpes is also mentioned

[Marcus Marulus]

Occidental Dissent » Becoming White: European Ethnonationalism and the Roots of White Nationalism in North America

One of the main theses: American racialism (aka White Nationalism) is the product of superior Rationalist thinking, while various European nationalisms (mostly called parochial or petty) are outgrowth of the irrationalistic Romanticism that elevated the Primitive over the Civilized.

The participants of the discussion proved to be the pure White Trash, only in a slightly "intellectualized" version.

[Carnyx]

The unity of Western civilization? Under the star flag/David's buclar? It's sick.

[Menydh]

You lack a little background on the owner and people of Occidental Disease.

He is Fade the Butcher, the former owner of The Phora forums. Coming from a small town/village of rural Alabama, he is resented of the mockery that some of us did out of him, on his own forum, a few years back.

Phlegethon, Awar and myself had a great time exposing him for the Alabaman farmhand boy that he is. Well, not surprising considering how bizarre it is seeing someone talking about such things as "Western Civilisation" or equating the Roman Empire to America.. from the heart of rural Alabama no less!

He was, at the time, the big joke on this little world of internet forums as his forum was hacked every so often. And even his MSN account was hacked at least once that I remember.

Eventually some members fooled him in such a way that they took [legally] over his domain and the forums, and he turned into a marginal pariah in his own former forums.

[Menydh]

While seeing now a big-grin rep. comment by Theobald for the post, I recalled a chapter once when the Alabaman clown said something about obtaining a grant to study in Paris for one year.

The way he talked about it sounded as if he believed that once he arrived in Paris, he would be greeted by the French as some interesting but "akin westerner brother".

I slapped him in the face with some bits of reality, letting him know what the French were likely going to see in a rural Alabaman pretending to be related to them.

You can imagine the rest..

[Señor Malo]

If Europeans are willing to forgive us for Walmart, Coca Cola, McDonald’s, jazz, rock-n-roll, pop, rap, hip-hop and other creations of the American negro, I am willing to forgive them for communism, liberalism, postmodernism, fascism, and cultural anthropology.

I'd forgive them for californian wines too and that lousy imitation of rugby they have (what do they call it? "football"?) and for calling soccer to football

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

He is Fade the Butcher, the former owner of The Phora forums.

Aha, Scimitar = FadeTheButcher.

I must say, I am always again amazed at their crass materialistic interpretation of identity, which is reduced to worshipping of the sole racial composition, genes, heredity, skin pigmentation, to the exclusion or, at best, marginalization of everything else, anything even remotely spiritual, like culture, customs, language, faith etc.

We discussed several times the complex of chosenitism and the moral self-righteousness, as ultimate derivatives of the Talmudic Judaism (which exerted a remarkable influence upon the Elizabethan and Cromwellian England and was thence, in a vulgarized version, exported to the New World), but this vulgar and naive (athough it pretends to be extremely non-naive and "realist") materialistic view of everything - even of religion - must have even some deeper, possibly even mystic (Gnostic?) roots.

I think, as far as I can recollect from my earlier readings into the matter, that a tendency to explain everything spiritual in merely materialistic terms is present in some Cabbalistic mystical branches (merkava mysticism), but I am not sure about that. I am going to try to explore it in more depth.

[Susi]

He needs to improve his spelling and grammar if he is to be considered "intelligent"

Pursuing the Stirpes website further, I managed to locate their equivilant of our “About” page. We are informed that . . .

Commonly confused words: Pursue and Peruse. See if you can find the other error, apart from the bad integration of the quotation.

Other than that, it just seems like someone is ranting and trying to belong.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Susi

He needs to improve his spelling and grammar if he is to be considered "intelligent"

As he would surely say, "its good ol' Alabaman speelin' "

Commonly confused words: Pursue and Peruse. See if you can find the other error, apart from the bad integration of the quotation.

The other error is himself. But that's not something that can be corrected if it is not with brain surgery.

Other than that, it just seems like someone is ranting and trying to belong.

You did hit something there. He does try to belong. It is when you make him see that he does not belong, that he goes overboard with his rants..

Mind you, he believes that Alabaman cousin kissin' tradition is platonic and that it subsequently links them to Classic Greece!

[Strengthandhonour]

Who would read such a terrible blog? actually, I rather not know.
I remember when he had the Phora, when his account was hacked, the hackers claimed they discovered subscriptions/links to gay websites..who knows if it was true.

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Plethon

Aha, Scimitar = FadeTheButcher.

His Avatar???

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

Who would read such a terrible blog? actually, I rather not know.

I don't read it, God forbid, it's only that I sometimes go there to make some psychiatrical evaluations. I don't think it is important in any way, just it is an illustration of the mindset of a certain kind of braindead racialists.

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

the hackers claimed they discovered subscriptions/links to gay websites..who knows if it was true.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

I remember when he had the Phora, when his account was hacked, the hackers claimed they discovered subscriptions/links to gay websites..who knows if it was true.

I remember that too. In fact the hacker made public (on the hacked website of the forums domain) a screenshot of his email account with several gay related emails.

I guess that that's why he always was (still is) so excited about gay marriage legalisation in Spain..

[Errigal]

I read through several of the comments and was not surprised by the arguments put forward. Many of the most annoying American habits which make conversation with them so difficult were there.

Firstly, they cherry-pick the elements in European civilization they like and pour scorn on the rest. They always want to be both theatre critic and actor at the same time.

Secondly, they made quite a few factual errors. This is one of the biggest problems with Americans: they're stupid and opinionated. A deadly combination.

Thirdly, rather than learn from the setbacks and defeats of "fellow White nations" they delight in them. Too many times I've seen how Americans love to hear about historical events which will allow them to gloat over someone else's hardship. The last thing they want to do is put themselves in the shoes of an historical figure or nation when they suffer such a failure. Americans identify with winners and think losers get what they deserve; therefore they learn almost nothing from the study of history. Bismarck said only a fool must learn from failure when he can learn from the failures of others.

I remember a while ago speaking to my father about the French experience in Algeria and how it compared to the current American adventure in Iraq. I said that if the Americans had read about France's difficulties in Algeria they never would have chosen to invade Iraq. My father said "well if they read about the history of another nation and really learnt from it they would no longer be Americans would they?" In other words, they can have their American Exceptionalism or they can share in European civilization, but they can't do both.

[Menydh]

Know what the Alabaman version of giving flowers to a woman is?

Offering dead squirrels to prostitutes!




Southern gentlemen they are