A debate on the Occidental Dissent, Forum Stirpes is also mentioned

[Menydh]

It would appear as if someone has sprinkled salt over wounds which, after 3 years, are still wide opened. That will feed his hatred for another 5 years at least. And if we push it even further he might even bleed to death.

Note of warning:
For those who don't know our good old cosmopolitan rural Alabama, he gained some fame as the drama queen in the by-gone days. A similar statement such as the one above ("he might even bleed to death") was enough for him to fill long numbers of posts where he said "Mynydd wants to kill me" "he is a murderer", etc., then an added comment about Americans being retarded increased the drama to "Mynydd wants to commit genocide on Americans", and so on. Then a few months later, on Christmas, he wrote some post with Christmas wishes to each and every member of his forum, where his wishes for me were that I was killed by the mafia or something.

He would be a good entretainer, but unfortunately he wouldn't pass the test to get him out of the mental asylum.

Originally Posted by Errigal

Sounds like the Americans aren't pulling their weight in the Western Civilization project! Is there anything they bring to the table?

Well, since it is supposed to be a list of rejectable things., it is obvious that he forgot to put the Americans on the list.

After all, aren't Americans the rejects of Europe? At various times in history, the scoundrel of Europe was rejected and packed to America. Those same European serfs who he speaks of with so much scourn are their so-called "European ancestry". Although it is possible that from the simplicity of his mind he would like to believe that it was la fleur of nations of Europe who went to settle in America. Ignorance could do that, but only in part. The other part can only be explained through insanity.

The genetic heritage that he speaks so much of is, in this way, the same genetic information that evolutive science dreams of erasing one day from the DNA of humans.

[Gavril]

Ugh, I have got to turn off the internet. This is unbearable.

[Menydh]

On a note about the map of assumed "inbreeding" mentioned on that blog, it is actually a map about consanguinity, not inbreeding proper. There is a small but substantial difference.

Semantic discussions apart, the degree of relatedness is not forcibly as in cousins kissin' inbreeding. In Spain for example, consanguinity was regarded as geographic and demographic, for very homogenous populations and in fact not within range of the dangers of inbreeding in the Alabaman way.

In fact the Catholic Church prohibited consanguineous marriages (up until third cousin, I believe) and these were only possible with a dispensation. Therefore the acts of dispensation for each case can be obtained, unlike in other countries.

Actually, I just checked and it before that prohibition under Roman Catholic Canon Law was as high as the seventh degree (third cousin is fourth degree).

source: Prohibited degree of kinship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

note: compare to the Church of England in that link, where it doesn't state any prohibition for cousins in any degree. Therefore it is not possible to find any acts of dispensation for statistical purposes. The map and the broken link in the white trash history site must come from this site: Main Page - ConsangWiki - Consang.net ... where the data collected on Spain, judging by the references, belongs in fact to acts of the Church at large.

Once again, being an American proves to be a liability.

[Ferran]

Good work FadeDaButcher & co., if there were some Europeans here who still felt a minimal sympathy for the stereotypical "White" American, now you definitely convinced them to change their mind. Seriously, I doubt the most anti-American European could have persuaded them better.

By the way... for all those not familiar with old stories, that's the screenshot some members were talking about some posts above:



Which reminds me that Mynydd wrote a post that could be of interest to someone, even though if it was necessary I could also ask him to write a step by step FAQ for people that have some problems locating the European continent in a map of South America.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Scimitar

That doesn’t surprise me. As a Croat, I suppose it comes quite natural to sympathize with your fellow Catholics [Mexicans] as opposed to those of your own race.

First of all, if I said that I preferred Mexicans to the American whiteys, it had absolutely nothing to do with them being Catholics (although I am Catholic myself), it had much to do with my disgust with your so-called "civilization". It was just a kind of "enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend" attitude. Although I also think that they are in a way more normal people.

I also congratulate Chinese (who are not Catholics) taking over your cities, if they are.

Secondly, as regards race, I hold the whole concept of the white race and racialism connected with it in utter contempt and don't at all feel myself attached to that race. In other words, I don't feel myself "white" in the sense American racialists understand it. So your argument that I, by supporting Mexicans, would be siding against those of my race, leaves me completely indifferent.

My loyalty goes to my nation first, then to the European civilization (European Christendom) as a whole. That nation and that civilization are upheld by people of certain biological composition, which is predominantly Europid, with several subraces inside it. That biological composition is one of the elements that make up the European civilization, but it's not the only element and not one of the most important ones. I don't support miscegenation with non-Europeans, because that would alter the biological composition of the European nations, which is one among great many components the European civilization consists of.

But I don't feel any special relationship with American whites, just because they are white. If the American whites and blacks are in conflict, I don't see any reason why I should side with either of them.

Besides, US whiteys and niggas seem to be spiritually very akin to each other.

Black Rednecks and White Liberals

[Errigal]

I thought I'd try to divide that list into a few categories:

A) Things that are actually good

4.) Christianity
34.) Historicism
28.) The avant-garde/art decadence movement.
29.) Expressionism.
30.) Impressionism, Post-Impressionism
24.) Romanticism
32.) Futurism
17.) Humanism


B) Things the Americans adopted and took to a ridiculous extreme

1.) Neo-Nazism
4.) Christianity
5.) Capitalism.
6.) Liberalism.
7.) Postmodernism/Deconstructionism
11.) Austrian economics
9.) Utilitarianism
20.) Psychoanalysis.
21.) The Frankfurt School/Critical Theory
27.) Cultural Anthropology.
31.) Atonal music
33.) Structuralism/Poststructuralism
23.) The Skinhead movement.
13.) Feminism
12.) Objectivism

C) Things that are really American inventions

10.) Political Correctness
16.) Anti-Racism
22.) Multiculturalism
26.) Libertarianism
19.) Abolitionism

D) It depends what you mean by ..

1.) Nazism (never intended for export to US)
2.) Fascism (same thing)
3.) Communism/Marxism (A Jewish thing. Don't blame us.)
8.) Existentialism (a passing fad)
14.) Socialism (not as alien to White America as you might think)
15.) Social Democracy (same thing)
18.) Anarchism (American libertarians are just as dangerous)
Anarcho-Syndicalism (National Syndicalism makes more sense)

Edit:

I moved "Objectivism" to "Things the Americans adopted and took to a ridiculous extreme". I hadn't heard that "Objectivism is a philosophy developed by Ayn Rand that encompasses positions on metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, politics, and aesthetics". I had to look it up on Wikipedia. As Barbara Bush said about the Iraq war, "why should I poison my beautiful mind with all of that!"

Ayn Rand is yet another one of the Jewish cast-offs the Americans have accepted as their new priestly class.

[Errigal]

Here's a worthwhile post from the other site:

17.Joe said … Scimitar, you’re going nowhere with this line of thinking. The kind of nationalism you’re criticizing works. I’d love to see you go to Croatia and insult Croation nationalists to their faces. You would literally be killed. But, they could come to you and insult you anyway they please and you wouldn’t do shit. They have something that is more valuable for survival than your abstract reasoning ability.


The statement: “The views of European fascists, communists, anti-racists, and Neo-Nazis, especially those of the Anti-American sort, are, a priori, distorted, foreign, weird and of no interest to American racialists,” is false. Most American racialists are interested in some of those things(which of course you know damn well) and more generally, are interested in contemporary European nationalist movements. It’s pretty absurd of you to be setting yourself up as some kind of official spokesman for American racialists because you have a blog that a few dozen people read.


Anyway, you think we need to recolonize Africa, something 95% of racially concious whites, here or in Europe would think is crazy. So obviously you aren’t speaking for anyone but yourself.


Furthermore, nationalists in many European countries have every reason to be anti-American. Why shouldn’t a Serbian nationalist be anti-American after what America did to them in the 90’s and is doing to them now?