WASP & Cherokee

[Erasmus]

Interesting:

"It’s pretty common for folks around here to be able to say they have Cherokee blood. I’m not sure exactly why, but it seems to go back to the pioneering days. Most all that I know of is traced to one’s great-great-grandparent ( mother always it seems ultimately ) being half-Cherokee. So I take that to be right after the Trail of Tears (1838-1839) and right before the Civil War (1861-1865). It works out like.. my mother being born in 52 hers in 22 hers who knows when but say 00 and hers say 1875 and hers say 1850."

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[Strengthandhonour]

I remember one time I was looking at this girls website. For heritage it said cherokee but for ethnicity it said white. who knows what they are up to...

[Errigal]

Two reasons: they want to make themselves interesting and they want to be able to make a blood link to the land they live on.

[Señor Malo]

It is funny to notice that from the about 500 indian nations that used to live in the former territory of the U.S.A. almost every white amercian who claims to have indian admixture it is always from the Cherokee nation

[Aramis]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

It is funny to notice that from the about 500 indian nations that used to live in the former territory of the U.S.A. almost every white amercian who claims to have indian admixture it is always from the Cherokee nation

You want to say that these statements are all lies?

[Breogan]

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

Two reasons: they want to make themselves interesting and they want to be able to make a blood link to the land they live on.

And more important: Chuck Norris has a lot of fans.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by ProduSlav

You want to say that these statements are all lies?

That's true, some people actually are part Cherokee

Originally Posted by Breogan

And more important: Chuck Norris has a lot of fans.

...and that's true too. A lot of people have watched crappy TV and thought they'd like to have a mysterious past like Chuck or some other idiot.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

It is funny to notice that from the about 500 indian nations that used to live in the former territory of the U.S.A. almost every white amercian who claims to have indian admixture it is always from the Cherokee nation

I'd thing it's probably the only Amerindian nation they know of. I mean if you were to ask an American the name of 1 indian nation it would be cherokee if your lucky. Mention Cherokee to him he'll probably think it's a Jeep, mention Apachee he'll think of helicopters, mention any indian grouping he won't know what your saying.

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

I'd thing it's probably the only Amerindian nation they know of. I mean if you were to ask an American the name of 1 indian nation it would be cherokee if your lucky. Mention Cherokee to him he'll probably think it's a Jeep, mention Apachee he'll think of helicopters, mention any indian grouping he won't know what your saying

Nowadays is the most likewise explanation, indeed

Originally Posted by ProduSlav

You want to say that these statements are all lies?

I don't see why I should believe them

Seriously speaking now , since the day of the "American revolution more or less, maybe a bite before, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole were labelled by the american WASPs "The FiveCivilized Tribes" because they had adopted many of the colonists customs such as owning plantations and slaves. These tribes from the east of the Mississipi lived and interacted often together with the WASPs till the Indian Removal act (early 1830's) which ment the deportation of the five tribes to the "Indian Territory" which would became much more later the State of Oklahoma. But even after the removal act many of them keep their "WASPish" way of life and continued owning palnations and slaves even there in Oklahoma.
The Cherokee tribe seems to be the one which most adopted the WASPish way of life, that is probably way many mixed americans claim to be partly Cherokee...The Cherokees even supported the Confederacy during War of Secession

Five Civilized Tribes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Indian Removal Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Marcus Marulus]

Winston Churchill was allegedly one-quarter Cherokee (by the way of his maternal grandmother).

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by prometheus

Winston Churchill was allegedly one-quarter Cherokee (by the way of his maternal grandmother).

Yes the famous Rothschild Cherokees of New York. Churchill's American grandfather, Leonard Jerome was close friends and business partners with the Rothschild's American representative August Belmont (originally August Schonberg). Leonard Jerome's father was Isaac Jerome who is described as a Huguenot.

This link throws cold water on the Indian heritage idea:
He had Iroquois Ancestors - The Churchill Centre

[Menydh]

During the days of the worse Nordicism of Skadi, there was one American member of the Staff, a Nordicist himself, who took a DNA test and gave positive on Native American. Well, at least he now has a reason to claim a right on the land where he lives.

It is interesting to notice the hipocrisy of the Skadi "Germanic" lot:

Originally Posted by Madoc @skadi

I'd like to point out that most White persons claiming Amerindian ancestry are not actually on any of the tribal rolls. And it seems that most "White Indians" claim to be part Cherokee. I know this has been discussed before, but many of those claiming Amerindian ancestry are from those parts of the US that were settled by people from the southwest of England & Wales. This is one thread were the issue has been discussed before;Skadi Forum

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"Those who occupy a space determine the nature of the society in that space, irrelevant of to whom that space originally belonged."


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I have included his signature in the quoted post, as a nice sample of what Germanicism is about under Skadi's scope. Under the rules of justice, freedom and reason, if one admits that piece of garbage to defend an alleged right of White Americans, one must also admit that immigrants have the same right here in Europe.. irrelevant of this space originally belongs to us.

Anyway, in this other thread his petty excuse can be contrasted by the posts of this other Skadi freak, Appalachian:
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I would pick this comment:

Originally Posted by Appalachian @skadi

Well, whatever Mynydd would say ( ), I think the phenomenon of Amerindian admixture among Americans of Old Stock parentage is probably a more common phenomenon that most perceive. And not really something to be ashamed of.

Responding to Delhook's post above, I'd say that an Old Stock Southerner with Indian ancestry is more familiar to me and would seem less out of place here than a descendant of twentieth-century Italian immigrants.

And the trend goes on on Skadi. Here is what the owner of Skadi "thinks":

"I don't mind slight Mongoloid/Amerindian influence too much. As I said once, I would even prefer it over a stronger dose of Med."

Worth mentioning that he is been classified as Alpinid with slight [East] Mediterranid. And no, contrary to what one might think he is not American.

[Susi]

I think most Americans these days claim "Cherokee" blood or "Native" blood.

I find it positively amusing.

[Menydh]

If I had to claim one for myself, I would pick Navajo.

[Carnyx]

And I Nez Perce (les Nez Percés).