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It was a typo. I meant to write "things are many times not as simple as adding 1 + 1."
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I figured as much. That does not change what I was trying to explain in my post however.
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You are being very generous to WN, by saying "certain". Of course you are a WN. Your generosity there is understandable.
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I say "certain", because I have yet to see a significant number of White Nationalists endorsing Nordicism. I have seen various WN British/Central/Northern Europeans, Australians and Americans (of those backgrounds) - regardless of the fact that many of them would not exactly fall into the "Nordic" racial category - endorse and defend it, but not in numbers significant enough to have me question White Nationalism's collective role in it. There are
plenty WN Europeans and European-Americans (of all European backgrounds) that do not prescribe to Nordicism.
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Yes, I remember that at some point the agenda of WN started to slightly move away from Nordicism, out of convenience. It was not difficult to realize, even for some WNs, that while WN was already in the marginal fringe, it could get much more marginal through Nordicism.
A similar pattern as with New Age Nazis on Skadi, who changed the name of Nordicism to Germanicism to make it sound more acceptable, and Nordic Supremacism to Nordic Preservationism.
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Well, then perhaps you are better acquainted with the
origins of White Nationalism than I. And if what you are telling me is indeed the case, then it has certainly moved a long way since then.
As for Skadi, I have never registered on that site, but I have heard that it is frequented by Nordicists. I also understand that most members of that site are European (correct me if I'm wrong on this). If that is the reality on that site, then forums like Stormfront would be far more moderate in respect to Nordicism; amongst its European and American/New World members alike.
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It is not debatable. There is a fusion. You won't see a Navajo calling himself a Navajo Mongoloid and another a Navajo Caucasoid, because there was a long process which finished on an ethnic genesis. Which is conditio sine qua non for nationhood.
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I already know of this process. I was just making an off topic observation that tied into this. The fact that some are now suggesting that a Caucasian people inhabited this continent before the mongoloid migration; much like how Neanderthals dominated Europe and the parts of the East before groups like the Cro-Mags popped up. The extent of this presence and its impact on the mongoloid peoples is subject to interpretation and has yet to be substantially verified.
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It is also old news. More recent news (still old) are the existance of the remains of a native substratum prior to the expansion of Mongoloid people, which is believed to be Australoid or similar to Australoid.
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Interesting.
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Though it's been dramatically falling to American standards, education in Europe gives us the advantage of such knowledge.  |
America has been void of any sort of standards in (government) Education since they desegregated schools. The fact that we have "students" flooding into our system that only can speak their unusual dialect of "Spanish" and refuse to learn English also seems to be lowering standards.
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It reflects at large the general feelings of Europeans, not only of Nationalists.
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Which you seem to adhere to adamantly.
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Which is a tragedy.
As an ethnicist, I advocate for the preservation of ethnic diversity. I am concerned with the ethnic preservation of my nation, then of Europe. But also with the preservation of the ethnic natives of other regions of the world. That is what Nationalism is about.
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I agree. This is why I find your sentiments contradictory when it comes to the Latin American situation. You previously used the elitist mentality of the Criollos (sort of the Latin American WASPs if you will) ruling those slums as an example of what White North America should collectively aspire to. That lot are some of the most selfish, cruel, scum bags to ever roam the earth. The native population may have survived Spanish occupation, but today they are suffering far worse than the few Natives we still have left here.
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Now, you might ask what then White Americans. I don't know. I'm a Nationalist, not a White Supremacist or a Raci[al]st.
There are undoubtedly ways around the problem. But as far as I'm concerned they do not lie in WN because, despite its name, it is in fact not related to Nationalism.
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For the hundredth time, I got you on the whole "WN isn't Nationalism" thing. To address your point though, yes there are ways around this problem and the first thing one has to do is put the realities of today into perspective rather than focus of past circumstances that cannot be mended. White Americans (that includes non-elitist English/British Americans) of today cannot be held responsible for the atrocities they had no part in committing. This is elementary and no more logical than saying we cannot blame the modern day citizens of Britain, Spain (oh yes the Latin Americans have plenty of grievances in regards to the Spanish; see here: ), France, etc. for any wrongful acts their people are responsible for. I do believe reparations are in order for these victims, but not to the extent of compromising our sovereignty.
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I'm mostly unconcerned with their sexual habits, to be honest.
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Then why highlight - or rather fabricate - them in a way to degrade those people? I have nothing against someone using facts in order to expose truth, but to purposely fabricate and/or exaggerate things in order to show that your beliefs are superior shows poor character.
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Please, explain. I find that very hard to believe.
There is some entertainment value.
We are actually not interested in the general audience of forums like Stormfront, Skadi or VNN, for various reasons. As a Nationalist forum, Stirpes strives for quality. As an European forum, it is Europeans and not Americans that we cater for.
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First of all you, wrongly assume that I am speaking of American White Nationalists that post on there. I was not implying such. To elaborate, there are plenty of Europeans that frequent Stormfront that may
wrongly or only partially identify with White Nationalism simply because they have yet to be exposed to what their opinions truly are compatible with. Many such discussions have arisen there in the past that indicate many Europeans share beliefs that are not foreign to yours. If some of these people knew of this forum or the types of views endorsed on here, they may then be able to positively contribute to this forum and/or endorse these types politics rather than the latter. To not even tap into resources where you know you can find such people makes me wonder if you take your politics and future of your country seriously or if this is just some hobby to you.
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You must understand that for Nationalism, due to its ethnicist approach, that we may all come from the same monkey means little in itself. Mind you, many of us here even refuse to believe, stubbornly, that all human beings descend from the monkeys.  |
Well, I believe in the evolution from the ape theory (it should not even be called such because it's pretty much been proven), but I don't see how such Darwinistic logic can be applied to anything that poses a threat to Nationalism; well, other than racialism of course. However, I have seen how some ultra-liberals have tried to distort and manipulate the theory in order to endorse their agenda.
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The physical part of the individual is clearly and largely insufficient to define an individual's Identity without his spiritual part. Here, again, Nationalism differs greatly of WN, Nordicism, Liberalism, Socialism, and all other ideologies or constructs based on a materialistic approach to the individual.
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That leads me to ask if you are in favor of regionalism, which seems to be ever so popular throughout much of Spain. Clearly, that sort of individual regard is far more intricate and easily applied to people than Spanish Nationalism; which to many Iberians seems just as illegitimate as White Nationalism.
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It is empirical, which makes it not only different but greatly different. Admittedly, there are exceptions to the rule but those are most unlikely to be found in any of the afore mentioned forums, in WN or in Nordicism.
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It's far easier to assume as opposed to actually go on those forums and gain a general consensus on the issue. If you were to actually consult people on the issue, as I have, then you would perhaps see things differently.
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The same logic is indeed applied to Europeans.
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Glad to see we can agree here.
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I wouldn't know. The concept of state citizenship is largely alien to me. But it doesn't cease to amaze me how it strives to imitate the concept of nationhood.
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It just makes it easier to govern the citizens of these areas. The last thing we need in this country is bigger government.
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Ah.. the Anglosphere, yes.
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Indeed.
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Someone should have taught WNs in the first place that wars are not just about glorious warriors and heros, but that there are also casualties, some even innocent.
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This is not a war. These are personal arguments made by you that stoop to very low levels. Let me ask you this, if you were in a real public forum and you were discussing these sorts of topics would you really use such words to describe Americans and/or White Nationalists? If so, I doubt many would take you for the intelligent, well versed, individual you appear to be.
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That flag, as you display it in your avatar, is the flag of The Spains to which Florida or Alabama no longer pertains but they were occupied by a people alien to us. It is charged with a spiritual symbolism of a people, the Spanish. A spiritual symbolism to which the modern day occupiers of those lands are alien.
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First of all, there are in fact Spanish-Americans in this very state whose backgrounds date back to the Spanish Conquest of this land. People living in St. Augustine whose family lived through all occupancies; British, American, etc. Many of whose ancestors also fought in the American Revolution.
This "spiritual symbolism" is shared by a lot more people still living here than you think. Moreover, what harm is it to you, or anyone, if others want to honor that fundamental part of this state's history? Even the current state flag has a picture of a Spanish fleet on it.
Is this what makes for debate on here? Avatars?
Saturday, March 10th, 2007
Re: Against Arthur Kemp’s “March of the Titans: The History of the White Race”
, plus those who migrated out are idiotic they support policies against their homeland wont to topple castro they don't realize that most people in the world love cuba and that they're despised in Cuba because of their anti-Cuban lobbying and the fact that as soon as the Castro's gone they're going to go to Cuba and steal people land (restitution, taking back land stolen by communists - basically a small group of Cubans in the states owned 70% of the land and they want it even though it's been developed and increased in value by others and in many cases it's some one's home, to want to steal some one's home just shows they lack moral fiber). You probably wouldn't go to Cuba because it's illegal for Americans to go under U.S. law except in certain restrictive circumstances.
