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My grandfather's family is partly from Ukraine and Poland. They had heavy features and dark skin (olive), and black wavy hair. I am not sure if I am Roma or Tatar (Turkic). I know I'm definately not Jewish. They were Polish Catholic, and spoke Polish. They had Polish surnames, but one surname with 7 roots... Wielicki. 4 Polish, 2 Ukrainian, and 1 Tatar. My grandfather was 5'11/180cm, and looks like some of the Crimean Tatars, I have seen in photos. His parents had round faces, and his mother had an almost flat face, with her nose, as if it were pushed in (as my grandmother would say). Here is a photo of my grandfather;
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Not necessarily any of them, could very well be Ukrainians from Crimea (Med features), don't imediately think the worst, hehehe. Well can tell you that it's definitely not Roma blood, it very rarely happens that Poles/Ukrainians marry gypsies, if anything it might be Turkic, but as I say, not necessarily. The roundness in the facial features could easily be Baltid or Ladogan influence.
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I know that the high cheek bones are very common among Turkic peoples, and Baltids (Finno-Ugralics?). The dark skin is obviously a trait from the East, which I was told from a Polish genealogist. I know there is Slavic in their since 2 out of his 3 daughters had red hair. I was also told by another person, that he looks liek a typical Pole (meaning has a mixed background). I have seen pictures of Crimean Tatars from the Steppes.. They look alot like him..
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Possible you have little cup of polish-lithuanian tatars blood.But today most of them definitly belong to white race,many of them have even blond hair.
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im not sure about his mongloid influces vel ladogan and tatar etc
armenid with/or dinarid possibly dark med (not pontid)

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Possible you have little cup of polish-lithuanian tatars blood.But today most of them definitly belong to white race,many of them have even blond hair.
Not all tatars are mongloids by definition. Tatars are also FinnoUgric, KAzan Tatars are originate from Turkic tribes

They never was PL-Lithuanian Tatars, only polonised by culture. Like jews, they cant be Poles, because they are jew (israeli whatever) and citzenship is not nationality.

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