Obodrite monuments in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

[norda]

http://www.all-in-all.com/english/8032.htm



Gross Raden

Northeast of Sternberg this is a unique archaeological outdoor museum with its reconstructed Slavic Obotrite settlement from the 9th. and 10th centuries.

http://www.gross-raden.de/



http://db2.fotocommunity.de/picserver/pic/73/628473.jpg

http://db1.fotocommunity.de/neu/pic/25/630125.jpg


http://db1.fotocommunity.de/neu/pic/21/630121.jpg




more pictures
http://www.praxisgeschichte.de/event...eumstipp16.htm
http://www.ferienhaus-herrmann.de/gross_raden.htm

[norda]

Slavic toponyms in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

http://img149.exs.cx/img149/2325/topon0ft.jpg

[Polak]

Don't tell Dr. Brandt...he'll go and trash the place. After all, Slavs never existed, especially in Germany.

[norda]

Try and find the most funny name. My choices are Banzkow and Gnoien.

[bocian]

No to jak Gnoien, to i Sietow.

Butzow, Sukow, Putbus.

[Johnny Reb]

Lookee here. According to Zyklop, this was German from 750 BC to 0 BC.



http://www.forum.stirpes.net/showthr...=1754#post1754

[norda]

Zyklop is famous for his sense of humour.
Of course he “forgot” to mention that this is the map published in the 1964 – in rather popular not scientific “Taschenbuch” series. 40 years in archeology is really a gap thus many theories have been verified.
It should be added that pre-history especially in Nazi Germany became a political science. The defeat of army put an end to this blooming imagination and since then are rare publications like this “pocket” pre-history.

Today, most scholars have accepted the historical and changing nature of ethnic groups and do not try to continue ethnic groups known from written sources into the prehistoric period.

Some verified migrations of Germanics [not German]- like Scandinavian Goths through the Lusitian and Pomeranian cultures territories are observed archaeologically but without unscientific nationalism and megalomania.

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by norda

Zyklop is famous for his sense of humour.
[font=Arial]Of course he “forgot” to mention that this is the map published in the 1964 – in rather popular not scientific “Taschenbuch” series. 40 years in archeology is really a gap thus many theories have been verified

Nice try, but this again was published in the year 2000 edition and actually is referring to Tacitus´s descriptions about the Germanic settlements
Since you are such an expert you also should know that the dtv publishing house is in no way connected to nationalism and never has been.

[Zyklop]

If dtv is too popular for you, how about Brockhaus?

Primal Germanic Territory

[Vojvoda]

Originally Posted by Johnny Reb

Lookee here. According to Zyklop, this was German from 750 BC to 0 BC.



http://www.forum.stirpes.net/showthr...=1754#post1754

Sweben is actually Sorben

[norda]

Originally Posted by Zyklop

If dtv is too popular for you, how about Brockhaus?

Primal Germanic Territory

And what does it prove? That controversial maps, opposing archeology, are still published in Germany. I agree.

This time not only proto-Slavs disappeared but also Celts and prot-Balts. Bravo for ignorance.

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/7094/lusi7wk.jpg

[bocian]

Originally Posted by norda

And what does it prove? That controversial maps, opposing archeology, are still published in Germany. I agree.

This time not only proto-Slavs disappeared but also Celts and prot-Balts. Bravo for ignorance.

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/7094/lusi7wk.jpg

Convenient ignorance.

[Polak]

Bwahaha...

Ahh, those wacky Germans...

[Zyklop]

The Brockhaus sets the standard in Germany. In other words, what is stated there is considered the official version in German schools and media. No need to convince Poles of anything

[Polak]

Originally Posted by Zyklop

The Brockhaus sets the standard in Germany. In other words, what is stated there is considered the official version in German schools and media. No need to convince Poles of anything

So now we know the climate in which you received your education...or lack of.

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Polak

So now we know the climate in which you received your education...or lack of.

Not only I but also 100% of all Germans - regardless of political orientation.

[Polak]

Well, why let truth and historical accuracy get in the way of a depressed nation's last gasp efforts to reclaim some pride.

I pity Germany.

[bocian]

Originally Posted by Zyklop

Not only I but also 100% of all Germans - regardless of political orientation.

Cool user title.

Seriously, I think this is getting out of hand. Let's put this nonsense behind us and move on.

We're just adding fuel to the 1000 year old fire, let's put it out, if only on this forum. At least it's a start.

I'll go first...I like most Germans, and wish them, as I do all the people on this planet, peace and prosperity.

[Aeternitas]

Well, like I said on Skadi, there will always be tension between Germans and Slavs because of our past - wars, land claims etc. - issues which I have personally grown tired of discussing about, so I will leave these to whoever else wants to do it. Such divergences almost always end up in flame wars, not a single conclusion is reached and most likely the threads get closed. There are Slavs I like or have no problems with - most on this board in fact , so I think it's no crime if we all act in a civilised manner without mocking others.

[henerte]

Slavic toponyms in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

http://img149.exs.cx/img149/2325/topon0ft.jpg

This map is strange

1.Wołyń instead of Wolin?
2.Gołonóg (Gollnow)? Shouldn't that be Goleniów?
3.Swibowina/Świbowina doesn't seem to exist in today's Poland
4.Murzynno seems to be rather German and come from German Mohr/Moehre, the ending is slavic though.
5. Weren't Świnoujście and Piła already founded by Germans?
6.Potdsam shouldn't that be Podstupim rather than Postąpin?
7.Schwerin = Zwierzyn? I always thought it was Swarzyn (from a slavic god)
8.Rostock = Roztok? Or Rostoka?
9.Stralsund = Strzałów? Or Strzałków?
10.Wolgast = Otogoszcz? Or Wołgoszcz?
11.Prenzlau = Przemysław? WTF? Przemysław as a name appeared in the XIV century

Sorry, but I don't buy this map.






As for the german maps? Bornholm=Burgundarholm? Weird, never heard of it.