Poland-Russia: Once an Enemy, Always an Enemy

[Racowie]

Originally Posted by Sarmata

Please stand up...

Da, hoću

Originally Posted by Sarmata

I support your fight for Kosovo

Thank you, Sarmata.

if it is so as you said, i asking you for one favour.... Spread the word among Poles on the Net... i have a message...

Brothers from the North
Is there nobody from there that has a heart and soul,
to look South if only for a moment,
Only,
where lost on the border a handful Gate Keeper is fighting to survive in Blood?
Brothers, a inhumane fist is threatening to mince us
they drink our blood as to take away this strength that is left,
they lied on us brothers, they would lie on you when the moment come

through a thousand summers lost, as a mighty Dragons of our ancestors, we fought with the devil as not to loose our souls to him
its the neverendless battle

Brothers from the North, can we not rely on you, to urgently give us at least your moral Brotherly support, at a time when death hovers upon us all...?
from those my brothers that have killed us for centuries...!
lands of Racowie are in flame,

if nothing, I call the Northern Sarmatians not to forget what happened to their Brothers...!

[Sarmata]

As I said I support your fight for Kosovo...I do my best to spread your massage...Maybe it change something who knows...But Im sure that one day Serbia will recover their "holy land". Polish Patriots are on your side.

[Racowie]

Originally Posted by Sarmata

Serbia will recover their "holy land". Polish Patriots are on your side.

God bless you for your kind words of support

let me add few more words here

Kosovo-Metohija aren`t only "holy land" for Serbians. Its not only about Serbian suveregnity. Its border of Slavic world what is violated, again.

True face of EU would be exposed on the example of Serbian question,... face of just another `drang nach osten`.

Slavija Majka! Slavija Besmrtna!

[siberfox]

I am Russian and I like and respect Polish people. They have many positive sides. Honestly, you can believe me. I only wish they wouldn't dislike Russians. Sure, they have their historical motives to do so. But I wish they were able to forgive the bad things and to think also of the good deeds. For example 600 thousands fallen Soviet, mostly Russian soldiers during the liberation of Poland in the WW2. Would Polish people still exist now if there weren't such a sucrifice? 40-45 years being in the eastern block is surely not as bad as being eliminated as "Slawische Untermenschen", istn't it?

It was already said, some of bad deeds were made by the tsarist and communist government, which you can hardly call a Russian government, if you look on ethnicities of the leaders. The Russian people were their main victim and only an instrument.

What a pity, that our close relatives, the Poles, were on the side of our enemies (chechen warlords for example, who committed acts of genocide on slavic people).

[Sarmata]

Originally Posted by siberfox

I am Russian and I like and respect Polish people. They have many positive sides. Honestly, you can believe me. I only wish they wouldn't dislike Russians. Sure, they have their historical motives to do so. But I wish they were able to forgive the bad things and to think also of the good deeds. For example 600 thousands fallen Soviet, mostly Russian soldiers during the liberation of Poland in the WW2. Would Polish people still exist now if there weren't such a sucrifice? 40-45 years being in the eastern block is surely not as bad as being eliminated as "Slawische Untermenschen", istn't it?

I know about your peoples sacrifice in the WW2 period but it was nott for our/Polish people free...Can you imagine thousends of Poles who fought almost in every front in that war and die...and all that for nothing...cause our "allies" from West and the East betrayed us.

It was already said, some of bad deeds were made by the tsarist and communist government, which you can hardly call a Russian government, if you look on ethnicities of the leaders. The Russian people were their main victim and only an instrument.

Agree it's true I know that...Stalin for instance killed millions of ethnic Russians...Communism were our common enemy. And I don't think about Russians as the enemies...you are our Slavic relatives.

What a pity, that our close relatives, the Poles, were on the side of our enemies (chechen warlords for example, who committed acts of genocide on slavic people).

Only our government...and our government doesn't mean our people.

[Shakaras]

Originally Posted by siberfox

I am Russian and I like and respect Polish people. They have many positive sides. Honestly, you can believe me. I only wish they wouldn't dislike Russians. Sure, they have their historical motives to do so. But I wish they were able to forgive the bad things and to think also of the good deeds. For example 600 thousands fallen Soviet, mostly Russian soldiers during the liberation of Poland in the WW2. Would Polish people still exist now if there weren't such a sucrifice? 40-45 years being in the eastern block is surely not as bad as being eliminated as "Slawische Untermenschen", istn't it?

It was already said, some of bad deeds were made by the tsarist and communist government, which you can hardly call a Russian government, if you look on ethnicities of the leaders. The Russian people were their main victim and only an instrument.

What a pity, that our close relatives, the Poles, were on the side of our enemies (chechen warlords for example, who committed acts of genocide on slavic people).

If not your cooperation with Hitler in 17 september 1939(R-M pact), 6 mln of Poles, and Polish Jews don't die. So I don't feel any respect to you and your 600 000 fallen soldiers. Because They are for me occupants as nazi too.

[siberfox]

Originally Posted by Shakaras

If not your cooperation with Hitler in 17 september 1939(R-M pact), 6 mln of Poles, and Polish Jews don't die. So I don't feel any respect to you and your 600 000 fallen soldiers. Because They are for me occupants as nazi too.

Do you think that without the R-M-pact Germany would'nt attack Poland, or that Poland could win against Germany? I don't think so, because Germany was too strong. Poland would be occupied anyways. I doubt, that the number of victims would be smaller without R-M-pact.

I think, German occupation was unevitable. If our countries had better governments at this time, they probably would support each other. But Poles hated Russians at this time already, they wanted no support. And USSR wasn't ready for the big war against Germany and tried to win some time to strenthen its industry and army.

Disrespect to fallen soldiers isn't very nice. This soldiers gave their live to defeat your enemy and also(!) to prevent your people from being genocided and germanized. After the victory your people were in a MUCH better situation than before. Six millions are victims of Germany, not of Russia, remember that. Russia helped this number to stop by 6 millions, otherwise it could be a much greater number and your ancestors and your people had a good chance to be among the first. Do you realize that?

I already said, I wish our people would support each other and wouldn't fight against each other.

[Shakaras]

Stalin=Hitler
Soviets=Nazist

[Lisowczyk]

Originally Posted by siberfox

I am Russian and I like and respect Polish people. They have many positive sides. Honestly, you can believe me. I only wish they wouldn't dislike Russians. Sure, they have their historical motives to do so. But I wish they were able to forgive the bad things and to think also of the good deeds. For example 600 thousands fallen Soviet, mostly Russian soldiers during the liberation of Poland in the WW2. Would Polish people still exist now if there weren't such a sucrifice? 40-45 years being in the eastern block is surely not as bad as being eliminated as "Slawische Untermenschen", istn't it?

It was already said, some of bad deeds were made by the tsarist and communist government, which you can hardly call a Russian government, if you look on ethnicities of the leaders. The Russian people were their main victim and only an instrument.

What a pity, that our close relatives, the Poles, were on the side of our enemies (chechen warlords for example, who committed acts of genocide on slavic people).

I have nothing against Russian and I appreciate your post however, the "liberation" of Poland, forst of all you guys came in kinda late... second of all you installed a communist puppet regime that lasted another 50 years after A LOT of Polish soldiers fought for a free independent Poland. I dont hate Russians for that, frankly because the Russians that did what they did usually did so with a gun to their heads and what russians did in the past shouldnt be used to judge the ones of today (just keep a weary eye out ) but the point is I wanna make is, you shouldnt say the "liberation" was really a good deed.