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I disagree overwhelmingly 1 3.85%
I mostly disagree 1 3.85%
I mostly agree 6 23.08%
I agree overwhelmingly 14 53.85%
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I like the speech. The anti-globalism explains a lot about the 2005 French NO, which was a Right-Left achievement.
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Excellent speech. You couldn't say more in so little time. However, there is a problem of image. That same speech should have been delivered by a much younger yet still aggressive in the delivery, leader. When you perpetuate yourself in power, wherever that power lies, the public usually sees it more like a perpetuation of your mistakes than of your successes. No matter if the latter overweigh the former.
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Great speech indeed.
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Great speech indeed.
The man is a genius in French politics, if he was 30 years younger he would be a very potent force in European Goverment !
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The only part that bothered me was the impression of a raving lunatic that he gave out.

As for substance, it sums up my thoughts quite accurately.
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The only part that bothered me was the impression of a raving lunatic that he gave out.

As for substance, it sums up my thoughts quite accurately.

Raving? no............Passionate about his country?.....yes
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He could be much better president than the half-jew
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Raving? no............Passionate about his country?.....yes
Of course that's what he was, I was talking about impressions.
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I love this speach. But I do not like the way he delivered it. He was short on time though.
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I love this speach. But I do not like the way he delivered it. He was short on time though.
He had only four minutes to perform it.

BTW, it was Vincent who send me this video via PM in the first place. Thanks Vincent.
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He had only four minutes to perform it.

BTW, it was Vincent who send me this video via PM in the first place. Thanks Vincent.
Thanks Savorgnan for posting the Thread.

In France Le Pen is a politician who was born too soon, his politics are needed now more than ever,......in my opinion.
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I agree with pretty much everything he said in the speech, the EU is an evil globalistic socialist/liberal movement who aims at destroying european nation-states, their culture, and their native populations.

Le Pen says what many europeans think, but are afraid to say, it's a shame politicians like him who actually love their country are almost never elected.
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Le Pen says what many europeans think, but are afraid to say, it's a shame politicians like him who actually love their country are almost never elected.
That's true. And for some decades Jean-Marie Le Pen has taken the Front National to be a real force to be contended with in French politics.

However, unfortunately it is also true that Le Pen has not been up to the task of allowing what in Spanish we know as a relevo generacional: a smooth and aseptic, but safe road open to the race of new generations into the top posts of the party.

And this is a problem that's currently bringing much internal divisions, which it reflects in the external, and could eventually provoke a split in the party.

In all fairness I must say that a future rupture or a wrong direction in the Front National could be a tragedy not only for France in particular, but for Europe and Nationalism in Europe in general.
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This speech should be translated to every European language. I will translate it into Croatian.
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The only part that bothered me was the impression of a raving lunatic that he gave out.

As for substance, it sums up my thoughts quite accurately.
Went a bit off the track on FARC and Sarkozy which was not strictly relevant to his main theses. Since this was a written speech, not impromptu, this should have been ironed out. Also a bit too impassioned. A calmer style would have been more effective. Other than these quibbles, I -- like everyone else here -- agree with his arguments.
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