Magyar Garda - Hungarian Nationalists

[Routasydän]

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I've heard of these guys before. I know they pursue the old borders of Hungary, but beyond that I don't know much. Does anyone have an opinion on these guys? I hear they're growing into a force to be reconned with.

[M.R.]

Until I don't know what is their opinion on Prekmurje (Slovenian region, formerly under Hungarian occupation), I won't comment this. If anyone knows, please post it here.

[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by M.R.

Until I don't know what is their opinion on Prekmurje (Slovenian region, formerly under Hungarian occupation), I won't comment this. If anyone knows, please post it here.

I'm pretty sure they want the restoration of pre-Trianon borders.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by M.R.

Until I don't know what is their opinion on Prekmurje (Slovenian region, formerly under Hungarian occupation), I won't comment this. If anyone knows, please post it here.

Their goal is Greater Hungary. So, I guess it includes Prekmurje

[M.R.]

I hardly doubt they want the same map as kingdom of Hungary, I have yet to see a Hungarian nationalist who would want Prekmurje back, since here never was significant Hungarian population.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by M.R.

I hardly doubt they want the same map as kingdom of Hungary, I have yet to see a Hungarian nationalist who would want Prekmurje back, since here never was significant Hungarian population.

Well...

[M.R.]

I have a map of Kingdom of Carantania in my signature and yet it doesn't mean that I'm claiming all that territory. It's simply being proud of your heritage and showing ancient maps is part of that.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by M.R.

I have a map of Kingdom of Carantania in my signature and yet it doesn't mean that I'm claiming all that territory. It's simply being proud of your heritage and showing ancient maps is part of that.

Look, all I'm trying to say is that I'm pretty familiar with the 'Magyar Garda', and they do claim all this terirtory I showed on the map. I would not call them the common Hungarian nationalist either.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Vincent

Their goal is Greater Hungary. So, I guess it includes Prekmurje

If this is true, they are not nationalists but imperialists.

[Monolith]

Some info about them, even though the article was written by a leftie.
Lancaster Unity: Neo-Fascist Magyar Garda Is Hungary\'s Shame

[KaloMatt]

Who are the HATVANNÉGY VÁRMEGYE IFJUSÁGI MOZGALOM ?

I believe there are small groups of "dumbs" who even nowdays
dream about some great Hungarian territory, but I don't think it's worth mentioning.

In the same way they're talkin about Transilvania, Vojvodina, South Slovakia,..
But i think every nation has some increased "maps"
of their territory just like we have our "NDH maps" which included
Sanđak, Banat which were never in part of Croatia.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by KaloMatt

In the same way they're talkin about Transilvania, Vojvodina, South Slovakia,..
But i think every nation has some increased "maps"
of their territory just like we have our "NDH maps" which included
Sanđak, Banat which were never in part of Croatia.

NDH never included Banat, just Srijem (Srem), and it was part of Croatia in some points of history. On some maps Sandžak and Bačka are also parts of NDH.

[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by KaloMatt

Who are the HATVANNÉGY VÁRMEGYE IFJUSÁGI MOZGALOM ?

I believe there are small groups of "dumbs" who even nowdays
dream about some great Hungarian territory, but I don't think it's worth mentioning.

In the same way they're talkin about Transilvania, Vojvodina, South Slovakia,..
But i think every nation has some increased "maps"
of their territory just like we have our "NDH maps" which included
Sanđak, Banat which were never in part of Croatia.

Some of those maps, of course, have more justification than others.

I would say that Hungarians in a sense were lucky to get 'downsized', as they did not have to deal with the burden of a multinational 'empire'. I would support the inclusion of Hungarian areas bordering Hungary proper, though.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

I would support the inclusion of Hungarian areas bordering Hungary proper, though.

Which areas do you have in mind?

[Marcus Marulus]

They are pre-Trianon nostalgics.

However, displaying such maps - a common thing the circles of the so-called far-right in Hungary - does not have automatically to mean that they are ready to take concrete actions for the realization of a plan of Hungary in pre-Trianon borders or that they have any ability to do so, but it surely can seem irritating to neighbouring nations and prevent any possible cooperation between nationalists.

[M.R.]

Actualy Hungary did lose much after WW1, some areas completly unjustified and I have no problems if they claim them back, however I want to know, what is their opinion on us.

Being a nationalist means you care about your nation and homeland, and if your homeland doesn't have the same borders as your state, so what?