Leftist violence in Switzerland

[Aptrgangr]

A typical left-wing rally against racism and violence and for peace and democracy and such.

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[Gavril]

Tsk. Danish leftists could do that ten times better (worse).

"We just want a house of our own"

[Marcus Marulus]

I wonder...why nobody ever strikes back to this scum? Probably because they are in fact the reserve soldiers of the established order, of the ruling regime(s). They are no revolutionaries in proper sense, but a kind conservatives, fighting to conserve the ruling order in place.

[Marcus Marulus]

Violence at Swiss pre-poll rally



The nationalist party is tipped to win the elections later this month

Violence flared in the Swiss capital of Bern as left-wing protesters tried to stop a pre-election campaign event by the nationalist Swiss People's Party.


Police fired tear gas as demonstrators hurled rocks and bottles in front of parliament to interrupt a march and rally by about 5,000 SVP supporters.

The SVP has been criticised recently for its hard-line views on immigration.

Its campaign posters - showing white sheep kicking a black sheep off a Swiss flag - have stirred controversy.

The party, which has campaigned against minarets in Swiss cities, condemned the violence as contrary to the country's democratic tradition.
The disorder comes two weeks before the country's 21 October parliamentary elections.
Recent polls have forecast the SVP to emerge as the largest vote-winner.

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[Strengthandhonour]

If you stand up to the scum you get sent to jail for being a racist and a nazi.

[Berrocscir]

Ah, yes - the old phoney war between left & right. Utterly pointless.

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

Tsk. Danish leftists could do that ten times better (worse). (...)

Well, things in Switzerland are at the beginning. It is well known the Scandinavian left-wing fascists are better organized and get more fundings from the governments.
But their brothers in arms in Germany are also very effective. They attack restaurants and other buildings that harbour NPD or other nationalist assemblies - an effective method to prevent landlords to lease rooms.

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YouTube - Brandanschlag auf nationales Schulungs- und Freizeitzentrum

The burnings are carried out this good organized the police is forced to act - to protect private property, and not to protect nationalists. In Berlin-Treptow a NPD mayor was attacked, so were several councillors, police waited until the attackers disappeared.
Furthermore left-wing groups fake attacks on foreigners in order to frame nationalists. Police even investigates against Die Falken (socialist youth organization) for pretence of crimes.

Originally Posted by Plethon

I wonder...why nobody ever strikes back to this scum? Probably because they are in fact the reserve soldiers of the established order, of the ruling regime(s). They are no revolutionaries in proper sense, but a kind conservatives, fighting to conserve the ruling order in place.

Yes of course they are the governments' footboys. Noone should believe their propaganda they were against the system and such. Police never is allowed to fight them hard, but right-wing protesters always are treated rough and even prevented from being guaranteed their rights.
Here in Germany some right-wingers dared to fight back the left scum. I tell you what the reaction was (not to mention police was more keen to arrest the defending nationalists) here where I live: Antifa waited until the nationalist left home, then broke into the house and thrashed the girlfriend in front of her small child, injuring her severely. This kind of terror is tolerated be the democrats and defenders of human rights and even supported by delaying proceedings. Of course, the free and democratic press neither reports.

[Gladstone]

Originally Posted by Plethon

I wonder...why nobody ever strikes back to this scum? Probably because they are in fact the reserve soldiers of the established order, of the ruling regime(s). They are no revolutionaries in proper sense, but a kind conservatives, fighting to conserve the ruling order in place.

Exactly. They are in reality something like an enforcement arm for those who rule, doing things the latter can not do openly for the time being. When the economic/financial aspect is traced much becomes clear however, one thing being that it would seem at the present time that the reds primary purpose is to make sure the flow of cheap labor remains unimpeded.

When in the 18th and 19th centuries it was fully realized by the extremely selfish and self-centered relative few (ie powerful elements from amongst elites) who were taking part in and profiting from the Trans-Atlantic slave trade just how much more profitable* the variant of slavery** known as 'cheap labor' was over chattel, the push for 'abolition' came into being. Alas, the 19th century abolition was in reality merely a near seamless transition from the chattel to cheap labor systems of slavery...the social ills of amorality, avarice, greed, and simple laziness at slavery's roots not only were not dealt with, but instead were greatly exacerbated.

The scourge of slavery in its cheap labor form besides being far more profitable than chattels, is also exponentially more socially destructive, a stable peoplehood in both the physical and cultural sense being nearly impossible due to the huge numbers of persons exploited in such a manner. Indeed, to assure the obtainment of these incredible profits, peoplehood and identity must be supressed, and hense the funding of the anti-race campaign amongst other things under the guise of 'anti-racism'. The relative few doing this exploiting at most everyone else's expense couldn't very well tell people the truth of the matter, that wouldn't sell, but instead they tell them that the great social destruction people are seeing due to the extreme greed of a relative few is instead the building of a brotherhood of man

They've got to be amazed at just how many have believed.


Organizations on the payroll of the European Commission and the Council of Europe. Note the support of 'migrants', a euphamism for cheap labor, and of the fig leaf for the same exploitation, the 95% plus bogus 'asylum seekers', here called refugees...

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AIB - Antifaschistisches Info Blatt, Germany

AFA-AM - Anti-Fascist Brigades /Antyfascyk Magazine, Belarus

AF - Anti-Fascist Web Portal, Russia

AFA - Anti-Fascistische Aktie - Nijmegen, Netherlands

AFA-LS - Anti-Fascistische Aktie Nederland - Landelijk Secretariaat, Netherlands

A description of the financial supporters. In the initial paragraph they appear to be attempting to downplay to an extent the EU Commission's financial role, but in the second paragraph giving the complete list of financially supporting organizations, it is placed first....which I suspect is its actual place in regards to financing these outfits.

Due to the medias rather limited reporting of the cheap labor aspect of this 'immigration', nor of its history, people are not getting a complete picture of what's taking place...particularly as to these 'protesters' and what it is they are about.

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* Cheap labor effectively calculated in 1863 by the former US treasurer and slave speculator Robert Walker as being four times more profitable than chattels. Walker, utilizing the 1860 US census data, had compared the heavily reliant upon cheap labor 'imported' from Europe state of Massachusetts, with the heavily reliant upon chattel slaves state of South Carolina.

** The scourge of slavery at its basis being the systematic theft of someone's labor.

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[Gladstone]

If there is hope, wrote Winston, it lies in the proles...

Chapter 7, 1984

If there is hope, wrote Winston, it lies in the proles.

If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within....But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it? And yet-!

[Erik P]

Originally Posted by Gladstone

They are in reality something like an enforcement arm for those who rule, doing things the latter can not do openly for the time being.

That could be an exact quote by a leftist about "Fascist violence".

I don't anything about what the Swiss rioters want, but some of the Danish ones have a point; the cities are ruled by a strict capitalist logic, anything that can't be sold or bought, or encourage you to buy, is prohibited. Obviously that should not be replaced with decadent anarchist drug squats, but still, one need to resist the process of replacing Man with Goods.

[Gavril]

I know what you mean, Erik, but the Ungdomshuset core usergroup stands for much, much more than anti-capitalism. I have deliberately avoided the place myself, but I have seen their propaganda elsewhere and heard stories of the place from my friends, many of whom were concert-goers there. Surely you must know how some people in Scandinavia mean anti-nationalism when they say anti-racism, anti-family when they say feminism, anti-male when they say gender equality, anti-hetero when they say anti-discrimination, and so on. I've had my share of punk rock, but the driving force behind the house was a bunch of extremists.

[Erik P]

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

I know what you mean, Erik, but the Ungdomshuset core usergroup stands for much, much more than anti-capitalism. I have deliberately avoided the place myself, but I have seen their propaganda elsewhere and heard stories of the place from my friends, many of whom were concert-goers there. Surely you must know how some people in Scandinavia mean anti-nationalism when they say anti-racism, anti-family when they say feminism, anti-male when they say gender equality, anti-hetero when they say anti-discrimination, and so on. I've had my share of punk rock, but the driving force behind the house was a bunch of extremists.

Sure I do (good summary btw), but I think it's important to stress that we don't condemn the leftists because we like the current status of the cities (and society as a whole), but that we want something different.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Erik Puke

Sure I do (good summary btw), but I think it's important to stress that we don't condemn the leftists because we like the current status of the cities (and society as a whole), but that we want something different.

That's an interesting observation. Very often people today are lost in that vicious circle meaning: if you are against the left, then you are certainly in favour of hyper-capitalism, modern West, George Bush etc; if you are against the right, it must mean that you are anarchoid, anti-nationalist, multiculturalist, pro-gay-rights and similar. These artificial divisions have been created and upheld by the media and the Establishment, they serve to obfuscate reality. These are too faces (or faeces, better to say) of the politically correct. An independent thought must be developped to overcome these ridiculous and harmful false divisions.

I thinks most people here on Stirpes don't fall in for such simplistic worldviews. If I am disgusted by anarchoist-faggotoids, it does not in any way mean that I cherish hyper-capitalism and modern cities. I think the same applies to you as well.

Our aim should be to eduacate our compatriots in our respective countries, not to fall prey neither to the "leftist" nor to the "rightist" slogans.

[Gladstone]

Originally Posted by Erik Puke

That could be an exact quote by a leftist about "Fascist violence".

A leftist 'could' say many things. And?