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Please check this:

http://www.taivaansusi.net/reich/

Enjoy
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Some more pictures of uralic people.

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I like this picture (khanty traditions+ XXI century ):

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Who are the Moshka?

Did you mean the Mordvins?
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I see some Mongoloid features of the face and eyes in some but even in some of those, they also have blond hair and all have very light skin. Those that say Uralics are Mongoliod, period, have not convinced me.
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I have a huge problem with the hunmagyar.org site.

Also, there is no "Finno-Ugric" or "Uralic" race, there are only Finno-Ugric and Uralic languages and cultures.
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Also, there is no "Finno-Ugric" or "Uralic" race, there are only Finno-Ugric and Uralic languages and cultures.
I agree. Finno-Ugric people seem to me just like Russians in those areas or mongolized.
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Finno-Ugric, like someone already said, is a linguistic term, wrongly used as a anthropological definition. Truth be told, there are three racial types in those regions:

- Europid
- Europid / Mongolid mix (from lower to higher degree)
- Mongolid

As simple as that.
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It's a shame the way how our fellow russians have treated their neighbours throughout time... a real shame. Endless territorial greed and ethnic hate towards so much important european and eurasian cultures
Yeah right its always the Russians who are the "evil" people who terrorize other nations. Mongoloid people attacked Russians from the east killing and raping thousands of Russians so we retaliated and made sure that they could never do it again. Germans Poles and their Baltic allies attacked Russians from the west so we retaliated. Swedes with Finns attacked Russia from the North so we counter attacked and took Finland. So stop your useless whining, if their ancestors didn't attack Russia in the first place they wouldn't have all this trouble!



You can whine all you want but these people will never get Russian territory. If they don't like living in Russia they can all move out when ever they want.
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Theoden You are Propagating The "Poor Suffering" Mari-El on this Forum to ?

And as It was Pointed Out Before Fino-Ugric tribes Took the Side Mongolian and Turic Invaders For the Most part

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Finno-Ugric, like someone already said, is a linguistic term, wrongly used as a anthropological definition. Truth be told, there are three racial types in those regions:

- Europid
- Europid / Mongolid mix (from lower to higher degree)
- Mongolid

As simple as that.
Not quite as simple. The Finno-Ugric speaking populations have been found to possess a unique and highly specific racial element that cannot be reduced to admixture between the Caucasoid and Mongoloid races.
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That Is a possibility I have Noted Before that Fino Ugric Tribes Have Almost Nothining In Common with their Northern and Western Counterparts other than the Language family (Based on Looks and culture from Personal Expereince)
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Great pictures! Good to see real people behind names and maps.

New DNA studies shows the F-U to be different.

Often there has been confusion about the language. The question usually is about how closely the F-U languages resemble the slavic languages.

This is how I explain it: The slavic and fenno-ugric languages are similar except for the grammar, vocabulary , type of speech, sentences and history of the language.
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I like this picture (khanty traditions+ XXI century ):

That mobile phone is actually a relic of the XXth century.

And, by the way, I miss the times when you made an appointment or a date hours or days in advance, and you didn't have an idiot calling you minutes earlier asking you where you are every 10 minutes.

Not to speak of the times when you didn't have to hear a mobile phone ringing every one minute in any conceivable place, or having to listen to the stupid conversation of a stupid idiot next to your seat.

(uh.. I'm feeling grumpy today )
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Yeah right its always the Russians who are the "evil" people who terrorize other nations. Mongoloid people attacked Russians from the east killing and raping thousands of Russians so we retaliated and made sure that they could never do it again.
True. Without Russians there we do not know what would have been of much part of Europe.

Some people like to interpret history without even reading about it.

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Germans Poles and their Baltic allies attacked Russians from the west so we retaliated. Swedes with Finns attacked Russia from the North so we counter attacked and took Finland.
I don't know the exact details, and the experience tells that there is always more than one side to the story, and that stories are usually not as simple as they may sound.. even when told by the "right" side.

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So stop your useless whining, if their ancestors didn't attack Russia in the first place they wouldn't have all this trouble!
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You can whine all you want but these people will never get Russian territory. If they don't like living in Russia they can all move out when ever they want.
Relax. He is a nutty and he has been banned for some time now.
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As the researchers of linguistics and DNA evidence have found out that most of the north and east europe were inhabited with Finno-Ugric peoples after the ice-age. I could call them the First Nations or Aboriginial peoples of europe and russia.
What happened with the native(fenno-ugric)peoples when a slavic tribe of better social and agricultural skills moved in, is not difficult to find out.

Rest is history, as you know and they say.
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As the researchers of linguistics and DNA evidence have found out that most of the north and east europe were inhabited with Finno-Ugric peoples after the ice-age. I could call them the First Nations or Aboriginial peoples of europe and russia.
Who were those?

May I assume that you will have the evidence for it?

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What happened with the native(fenno-ugric)peoples when a slavic tribe of better social and agricultural skills moved in, is not difficult to find out.
They were genocided in numbers of 6 million at a time? If so, you will also have the evidence for it, won't you?

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Rest is history, as you know and they say.
Between the realms of fantasy and history, I choose the second.

By the way, have you bothered with looking around for the orientation of the board? Ever heard of the Latin words persona non grata?
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