Kosovo conflict

[Demoritus]

aRktikOs, you are really non-defined person. You are promoting "White Pride World Wide" avatar and defending Albanians which are Muslims and non-whites? Oh, please! Stop defending your "brothers"; maybe you are part of them, and maybe you are just hidding behind Greek flag as many Albanians do. I found it very unrealistic to stand against the facts.

Kosovo is part of Serbia!

[Awar]

Demoritus, would you please stop using the term 'white'. It's an american construct for American purposes, not Balkans.

Albanians are genetically predominantly European, Balkanoid, so, if they're "non-white", so is most of Europe. Not even all of them are Muslim, and it's unclear how many of them are really pracitising muslims.

Kosovo is part of Serbia, but nothing true can be gained through lies, especially not Americanized lies and concepts like WPWW.

[Valon]

I've seen that many "White" or "European" nationalists that seem to have all the trademarks of being branwashed. They say that they think independently and but where ever they here USA they automatically think against it. They lack the ability to think for themselves and to look for themselves.


Now lets take a closer look at Kosovo.
On what grounds does Kosovo belong to Serbia?
On historical grounds it belongs to the Serbs, but if you go further back it belongs to the Albanians.
On demographic grounds it belongs to the Albanians.
On territorial grounds it is its own province of Serbia, soon to be independent.

Now Awar makes the assertion that the Albanians have a strange desire for land. Well I'm sure the Serbs in Bosnia and Croatia also felt for land that their fathers have lived on and worked with when they lost it to the Bosnians and Croats(this in not a shot at the Serbs).
And also in that land the Albanians are the majority. So why should it seem strange that they want that land?

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Valon

I've seen that many "White" or "European" nationalists that seem to have all the trademarks of being branwashed.

In fact many Europeans are "brainwashed". Otherwise the conflict in Bosnia would have been different, and there would be no problems with deporting Albanians from Kosovo. Further, no Islamic or islamicized population would be allowed in Europe.

They say that they think independently and but where ever they here USA they automatically think against it. They lack the ability to think for themselves and to look for themselves.

Try to rewrite the first part of the sentence so that it makes some sense. We are not cryptographers here.

And while you are at it, avoid to make the gratuitous assertion that because someone doesn't give you any credit he is automatically uncapable of thinking independently. It seems to me that the opposite applies here.

Now lets take a closer look at Kosovo.
On what grounds does Kosovo belong to Serbia?
On historical grounds it belongs to the Serbs, but if you go further back it belongs to the Albanians.
On demographic grounds it belongs to the Albanians.

Ever heard of mass deportations?

On territorial grounds it is its own province of Serbia, soon to be independent.

That remains to be seen. More likely one day you may see yourself asking for assylum in Anatolia.

And also in that land the Albanians are the majority. So why should it seem strange that they want that land?

For all I know Kosovo is key to the birth of the Serbian nation, and the Serbs have been defending with their blood the territorial boders of Europe against foreign aggression. Albanians on the other hand.. Therefore, and for all I care, whether Albanians want Kosovo or whether they want the Moon, it is completely irrelevant.

You should raise your case[less] on Stormfront. There you might get luckier with reaching to their brains.

[Valon]

Again we have people living in a fantasy world. Mass deportations? Do you not know the war was a war of deportation and extermination once Milosevich had the chance?

Why would I be seeking asylum in Anatolia.

Albanians on the other hand..

Demonstrating your lack of knowledge of Albanian history are you.

Skenderbeu!! Skenderbeu!! Skenderbeu!!

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Valon

Why would I be seeking asylum in Anatolia.

Because in an ideal world, Byzantium would be returned to Europe and Turkey pushed back to the East.

[Valon]

Again, why would I be seeking asylum in Anatolia?

But you don't have to answer that since your not likely to bring anything valuable to this discussion.

I shouldn't even have asked.

[Arktikos]

Originally Posted by Awar

1. I did not insult anyone.

...

Originally Posted by Awar

That's exactly why I consider Albanians to be anti-European.
Not only are you a tool in the hands of anti-European forces, you also like that role.

......

Exactly, because Albanians, all Albanians, whether falsely pro-European like you, or the Islamists, or the raving lunatic serial-killers like the UCK,
will forever be just a tool in the hands of whichever anti-European force.

Turks or Americans, who knows, perhaps Space-Aliens in the future,
you will always sell-out and like it.

Kosovo conflict


You -and others here- have repeatedly insulted Valon ( ad hominem ) and the Albanian people ( ad gentum ).

You have committed two fellonies, punishable with 5 warning points each, according to the Rules of Stirpes Forum.

http://forum.stirpes.net/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings

Originally Posted by Awar

2. I'm too tired to post about the similarity between W.Anatolians and Balkanoids.
You'll just have to take my word for it.

Only NOW you put it right.
Balkanoids.
Not just Albanians.

Originally Posted by Awar

3. Your pro-Islamic attitude is ridiculous.

As I have repeatedly said, in this and other threads, I am completely indifferent to what religion has become.

Therefore I have neither pro-Islamic nor anti-Islamic sentiments, as I have neither pro-Christian nor anti-Christian sentiments.

What you would like to perceive as "pro-Islamic attirude" is nothing but my refusal to play the role demanded by me by the "Clash of Civilizations" scenario, conceived in the US.

A role that you and others, knowingly or unknownigly, insist on playing, down to the last detail, exactly as it is demanded from you by the people who would love to see the Balkans eternally divided by hatred, so that Washington will always find justification to interfere.

Originally Posted by Awar

4. You can get your message through by using ordinary fonts and writing. I've issued a warning to you. If you don't cease to abuse large fonts, you will find yourself warned and shunned.

Ah, thank you for the 4 warning points.

Of course, it must have taken quite an expanded definition of the Rules concerning Formatting, because according to them:
"17. The abuse of block letters, fonts, colors, other text attributes, and smilies is not permitted. Abuse is constituted by using them for other purposes than occasional accentuation."


And, it takes a lot of imagination to see Abuse of Formatting in a post that uses no block letters, no colours, no smilies, but only resorts to the use of Verdana 5pt Plain ( with Verdana 2pt being the Forum default font ) in one sentence ( "Where would that lead us?" ) and the use of Verdana 2pt Bold ( Forum Default Bold ) for telling you that attitudes such as yours only promote the interests of extra-European forces.

Kosovo conflict

That is called occasional accentuation.

I suspect that PERHAPS it was not a matter of abuse from my part.

PERHAPS it was a matter of someone being annoyed by my disagreement and deciding to exercise his authorities as High Inquisit.... eh, sorry, I meant Moderator, in order to silence a different view, concerning the restoration of European Nations.

So much for free speech.


And now, I come to the unavoidable question:

Since, you committed TWO fellonies ( ad hominem insult and ad gentum insult ), has anyone given you 5+5 points of warning as demanded by the Rules of Stirpes Forum?

Kosovo conflict

http://forum.stirpes.net/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings

Because, if no-one has,
then one MIGHT be led to the conclusion
that the Rules are not applicable for everyone,
and that the Rules MAY be used as a pretext
to silence a view that does not comply
with this or the other moderator's personal beliefs.

Which would be a sad thing to think, for it would lead to the unavoidable conclusion that the supposed "Germanic Supremacists" of Skadi ( at least, while Erikkson was still running the show ) were far tolerant of different views (within the scope of European Nationalism, of course ) and far more European-oriented.

[Awar]

Originally Posted by aRktikOs

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Kosovo conflict


You -and others here- have repeatedly insulted Valon ( ad hominem ) and the Albanian people ( ad gentum ).

You have committed two fellonies, punishable with 5 warning points each, according to the Rules of Stirpes Forum.

http://forum.stirpes.net/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings

If you have any complaints about the moderators, take them to the complaints forum.

Only NOW you put it right.
Balkanoids.
Not just Albanians.

Albanians ARE Balkanoids. I thought you knew that.

As I have repeatedly said, in this and other threads, I am completely indifferent to what religion has become.

Therefore I have neither pro-Islamic nor anti-Islamic sentiments, as I have neither pro-Christian nor anti-Christian sentiments.

What you would like to perceive as "pro-Islamic attirude" is nothing but my refusal to play the role demanded by me by the "Clash of Civilizations" scenario, conceived in the US.

A role that you and others, knowingly or unknownigly, insist on playing, down to the last detail, exactly as it is demanded from you by the people who would love to see the Balkans eternally divided by hatred, so that Washington will always find justification to interfere.

The presence of Islam in the Balkans has been a seed of hatred for
many centuries now.

Ah, thank you for the 4 warning points.

Of course, it must have taken quite an expanded definition of the Rules concerning Formatting, because according to them:
"17. The abuse of block letters, fonts, colors, other text attributes, and smilies is not permitted. Abuse is constituted by using them for other purposes than occasional accentuation."


And, it takes a lot of imagination to see Abuse of Formatting in a post that uses no block letters, no colours, no smilies, but only resorts to the use of Verdana 5pt Plain ( with Verdana 2pt being the Forum default font ) in one sentence ( "Where would that lead us?" ) and the use of Verdana 2pt Bold ( Forum Default Bold ) for telling you that attitudes such as yours only promote the interests of extra-European forces.

Kosovo conflict

That is called occasional accentuation.

I suspect that PERHAPS it was not a matter of abuse from my part.

PERHAPS it was a matter of someone being annoyed by my disagreement and deciding to exercise his authorities as High Inquisit.... eh, sorry, I meant Moderator, in order to silence a different view, concerning the restoration of European Nations.

You are again abusing text format, something no one else is doing in such a constant and annoying manner. I've issued one more warning to you regarding this, plus, one more warning for complaining about the forum outside the complaints section.

So much for free speech.

Certain standards have to be kept.

And now, I come to the unavoidable question:

Since, you committed TWO fellonies ( ad hominem insult and ad gentum insult ), has anyone given you 5+5 points of warning as demanded by the Rules of Stirpes Forum?

Kosovo conflict

http://forum.stirpes.net/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings

Because, if no-one has,
then one MIGHT be led to the conclusion
that the Rules are not applicable for everyone,
and that the Rules MAY be used as a pretext
to silence a view that does not comply
with this or the other moderator's personal beliefs.

Since you can't stop complaining in the wrong area, and stop abusing
text format, you've been temporarily banned thanks to having more than 10 warning points. Cool off.

Which would be a sad thing to think, for it would lead to the unavoidable conclusion that the supposed "Germanic Supremacists" of Skadi ( at least, while Erikkson was still running the show ) were far tolerant of different views (within the scope of European Nationalism, of course ) and far more European-oriented.

Then, go back to Skadi if you think it's better.
The fact that the moderators there are not interested in Balkan political issues does not equal tolerance.

[Chetnik]

Originally Posted by Awar

The presence of Islam in the Balkans has been a seed of hatred for
many centuries now.

If that would be true, then how can one explain the countless and extremely gory wars fought in the Balkans among Christian ( even Orthodox Christian ) NAtions?

Originally Posted by Awar

You are again abusing text format, something no one else is doing in such a constant and annoying manner. I've issued one more warning to you regarding this, plus, one more warning for complaining about the forum outside the complaints section.

So, you temporarily banned him.
So convenient.

Originally Posted by Awar

Certain standards have to be kept.

Such as saying "yes master" to Awar?

Originally Posted by Awar

Since you can't stop complaining in the wrong area, and stop abusing
text format, you've been temporarily banned thanks to having more than 10 warning points. Cool off.

How convenient.

Originally Posted by Awar

Then, go back to Skadi if you think it's better.
The fact that the moderators there are not interested in Balkan political issues does not equal tolerance.

Does "being interested in Balkan political issues" mean
"being interested to promoting solely Serbian interests, the way a non-Nationalist Serbian sees fit"?

[Chetnik]

Originally Posted by Awar

I'd actually understand the people here if the area was rich in oil,
but, dumb, poor people fighting over ethnicity and religion.

If I was a foreigner, I'd probably laugh at Balkan pathetic fates.

Indeed.

[Awar]

Arktikos. You registered a new username 'Chetnik' with a false identity.
That means now you will be permanently banned from this forum.

Arktikos shares the same IP adress with Chetnik.

Bye, I'll keep these posts as a reminder for other members on how NOT to act.

[Valon]

If true, he still makes a good point in his last post.

[Awar]

Originally Posted by Valon

If true, he still makes a good point in his last post.

What exactly?

[Valon]

I know of a quote that illustrates it well:

"The partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions" -Plato, Dialogues, Phaedo

[Awar]

Please say what you want directly. I'm not trigger-happy when it comes to banning.
I've been around these message boards for long enough, and I've heard all sorts of arguments and counter-arguments.

Arktikos has said nothing new, but his conduct was less than desirable.

Especially with registering a second account, falsely labelling himself as a Serb, just to troll around here.