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It's not my view but the view of Breton NS during 30-40's. I've heard something of similar with Flemish and Alsacians.
Fine. But since you use the idea, I imagine that you give it some credit or support. So care to explain how are they races?

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Well... say this to "french" Basques or Catalans .
Casualties. But at least they will always count with irredentists in the free side.

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Anyway, a guy who speak like this to Bretons would easily wake up people.
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I can go there and lead you. But you'll have to ask nicely.
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You rather mean "Flemish speakers" here. An important thing is also the "identity factor". Without this, and since they speak English, Irish people, for example, would be probably just considered as Catholic English.
True. But "our" identity also remains entirely french, specially as a region of sailors, or we would have almost none.

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No offense, but it seems to me that what you say here (just like Theobald) is an ethno-cultural justification of what is (namely French nationality) primarily a civic idea.
Flemish people from Northern France are considered as French not because they are Celto-Germanic or Frankish, but only because they were annexed to France, and that they are because of that (just like the Bretons, Occitans, or Antillians) part of the national community of French citizens (i.e a civic nationalist idea). Any other explanation would be a historical nonsense.
True again. I wasn't talking about the juridic/civic term of french. To be clearer, let me change french for gallo-romance.
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