Miscegenation from eugenical standpoint?

[Tennyson]

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I think is more common in Nordic women (everywhere indeed).

It is just that the difference is more striking when the European partner is Nordic.

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Tennyson

It is just that the difference is more striking when the European partner is Nordic.

You nordicist...

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I agree. No loss whatsoever. And this is the right mentality that must mark the difference for nationalists in Europe. We must be elitists and strong in mentality and not let ourselves to be dragged into the white nationalist style marginality.

Indeed, I fully agree. I think that what currently happens to Europe could actually be a great chance, with people with no or low abilities being eliminated through racial mixing and collaboration. From these times of shadow will come out stronger Nations and an elite able to lead Europe and to give her back her status. We may be much fewer, but definitely quantity does not replace quality.
I remember a text of José Antonio Primo de Rivera saying something along those lines, about a new Spanish elite... Perhaps can you find it, Mynydd?

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Fine, but universities stopped being an assurance of intellectual elitism long ago, since their massification.

In many cases, becoming the academia is a refuge for those who are not fit to compete in the real world. Under such circumstances you cannot expect such people to educate future elites.

In many cases but not all.
Here we can clearly see a difference between Marc Bloch's and Louis Pasteur's/Robert Schuman's students.

Marc Bloch is the Faculty of Arts and Letters. Full of leftist losers and hippies who, as you said, "are not fit to compete in the real world". Philosophy, Sociology, Art, Literature, ... Most people study there because they don't know what to do. [Sorry, Caesar Princeps ]
On the other hand Louis Pasteur is the Faculty of Sciences and Economics, Robert Schuman the Faculty of Law and Management. Future lawyers, doctors, scientists, managers, businessmen... In few words the elite of tomorrow. Although there are also some "lost people", they are quickly "eliminated", in two or three months. LP and RS are what I would call "rather elitist universities".
You can see this difference just by walking from Robert Schuman Faculty to Marc Bloch Faculty (100m).

As an anecdote last year there was much agitation in Strasbourg during the CPE crisis. There were calls for a general strike. This strike was only effective in Marc Bloch though. So as they were tired of demonstrating and had nothing else to do (classrooms and amphitheaters were blocked) they decided to come and sack Louis Pasteur and Robert Schuman.
There were streetfights and Marc Bloch students quickly came back to their Faculty. They even blocked their doors.

[ArabianKnight]

Originally Posted by Theobald

From what I see everyday, European women who date or marry non-European men are :

- either "White Trash" women, ugly, often fat. These ones marry Africans rather than Arabs (Blacks are attracted to fat blonde girls, that is not a preconceived idea). They do it because they can't get a "normal" husband. It is not uncommon in our ghettos to see 30-35 y/o women, often with children, dating or marrying 20-25 y/o non-Europeans.

- or "fashion" and "glamour" girls, generally rather attractive (and Nordic-looking as well). They date Arabs rather than Africans. In nowadays' France everything Oriental is seen as chic and fashion. They do it merely because it is trendy to do it. But it goes without saying that if MTV disappeared all of a sudden and if you only saw famous "intra-racial" couples in mass-medias they would only date ethnic French men.

Anyway in both cases they are intellectually limited women.

I have noticed that the professions most likely to date non-European men are hairdressers, aestheticians, saleswomen in wear shops and barmaids - and generally jobs where you do not need to have a baccalaureate (high-school diploma in Anglo-Saxon countries).

Arabs in France, are not Arabs, their Arabized Berbers, we don't consider them Arabs. They also give us a very bad name in France do to their rowdy beahviour. We call them North Africans, or Berber. Genetics has proof it they are mostly of Berber origins.

I personaly detaste racialy intermarriages, I see as destroying my tribe and race. Its boils me inside, goodthing the Beduions to this day don't intermarry with other people except among self them and have perserved their Arabian looks. I was tought by mother, to only intermarry with own people and tribe.

Yes I agree they tend to be intellectually limited, example this video of women saying she likes Arab guys

YouTube - Arab Men not Sexy

However for the women who date Arabs, that is dating, most Arabs I know usually end up getting married to their own women. Few of them get married or have family togther rarely. I hate interacial dating also for obvious reasons. Religouse Arabs never intermarry with other people except themeslves. As Beduion I will not be in interracial relationship, as I was tought by my mother and father, this inoder to keep our traditions and lineage alive. Uusually Beduions don't intermarry with other Beduion tribes but their own tribe

MTV no comment

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by ArabianKnight

Arabs in France, are not Arabs, their Arabized Berbers, we don't consider them Arabs. They also give us a very bad name in France do to their rowdy beahviour. We call them North Africans, or Berber. Genetics has proof it they are mostly of Berber origins.

I personaly detaste racialy intermarriages, I see as destroying my tribe and race. Its boils me inside, goodthing the Beduions to this day don't intermarry with other people except among self them and have perserved their Arabian looks. I was tought by mother, to only intermarry with own people and tribe.

Yes I agree they tend to be intellectually limited, example this video of women saying she likes Arab guys

YouTube - Arab Men not Sexy

However for the women who date Arabs, that is dating, most Arabs I know usually end up getting married to their own women. Few of them get married or have family togther rarely. I hate interacial dating also for obvious reasons. Religouse Arabs never intermarry with other people except themeslves. As Beduion I will not be in interracial relationship, as I was tought by my mother and father, this inoder to keep our traditions and lineage alive. Uusually Beduions don't intermarry with other Beduion tribes but their own tribe

MTV no comment

Totally agree ...

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by ArabianKnight

Arabs in France, are not Arabs, their Arabized Berbers, we don't consider them Arabs. They also give us a very bad name in France do to their rowdy beahviour. We call them North Africans, or Berber. Genetics has proof it they are mostly of Berber origins.

That's my experience too.

Just this winter while I was at a restaurant in the Pyrenees, I noticed the waitress and asked her where she was from. I already knew the answer. But she said that she was "Arab". I rose my eyebrows and told her that she was clearly not Arab, but North African. Probably Moroccan. Her face turned slightly angered. She said that that's what Moroccans are, Arabs. I laughed and said that Moroccans are some kind of ancient mulatto between Berber and Black African. She knew I was right, but she denied it again.

[ArabianKnight]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

That's my experience too.

Just this winter while I was at a restaurant in the Pyrenees, I noticed the waitress and asked her where she was from. I already knew the answer. But she said that she was "Arab". I rose my eyebrows and told her that she was clearly not Arab, but North African. Probably Moroccan. Her face turned slightly angered. She said that that's what Moroccans are, Arabs. I laughed and said that Moroccans are some kind of ancient mulatto between Berber and Black African. She knew I was right, but she denied it again.

Yes we don't see them as Arabs. The problem is when the Arabs took over North Africa, the Berbers many of whom adopted the Arabic langauge as their own. Thus they were lingusiticaly Arabized. As DNA evidence shows
Alot of North Africans are ashamed of their Berber origins, for reasons I don't know why, if you call them Berbers they get very angery. Maybe because it means Barbarian originaly.

Their is Amazigh awakining happening North Africa, I hope they discover their past. Some of them identify as Arabs because for religouse reasons mostly and since of belonging to larger community, this is because the Berber tribes are not united, they have always been enemies of each other. For example the Chauis in Algeria don't get along with Kabyles, their has been problems between them. Thus I think they adopted an Arab identity in order to unite.

North African Arabs 82% of their Y-Chromosome belongs to the E3b2 the Berber specific Halpogroup, some might have Nelothic J1 and J2, and some might have Arab admixture, but its very small. The females have their own mtDNA Halogroups which are for the most part shared with West Eurasians with some specific North African markers. Ofcourse in some they have sub-Saharan admixture mostly on the maternal side.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by ArabianKnight

Arabs in France, are not Arabs, their Arabized Berbers, we don't consider them Arabs. They also give us a very bad name in France do to their rowdy beahviour. We call them North Africans, or Berber. Genetics has proof it they are mostly of Berber origins.

I personaly detaste racialy intermarriages, I see as destroying my tribe and race. Its boils me inside, goodthing the Beduions to this day don't intermarry with other people except among self them and have perserved their Arabian looks. I was tought by mother, to only intermarry with own people and tribe.

Yes I agree they tend to be intellectually limited, example this video of women saying she likes Arab guys

YouTube - Arab Men not Sexy

However for the women who date Arabs, that is dating, most Arabs I know usually end up getting married to their own women. Few of them get married or have family togther rarely. I hate interacial dating also for obvious reasons. Religouse Arabs never intermarry with other people except themeslves. As Beduion I will not be in interracial relationship, as I was tought by my mother and father, this inoder to keep our traditions and lineage alive. Uusually Beduions don't intermarry with other Beduion tribes but their own tribe

MTV no comment

Yes, marrying into your own nation/tribe is preferable from many points of view. Seeing it strictly on the personal level, it can spare you many problems connected with the cultural adaptation etc. So I partly agree with you. But on the other hand, life can be quite unpredictable and you never know what sudden turn it can take.

[ArabianKnight]

Originally Posted by Marulus

Yes, marrying into your own nation/tribe is preferable from many points of view. Seeing it strictly on the personal level, it can spare you many problems connected with the cultural adaptation etc. So I partly agree with you. But on the other hand, life can be quite unpredictable and you never know what sudden turn it can take.

That is true, but usually people from the same culture for the most part get along. Also with intermarriages both cultures get destroyed, because they fuse into one. The childern of such marriages often became confused about their identity. As people say the childern are our future.

[Carnyx]

I understand your concerns for that, but most North-Africans in France consider they are Arabs. Whether they are "genetically Arabs" or not is as relevant as wondering whether Ashkenazim are authentic descendants of Isaac or Khazars.

What is a pre-conceived idea (much en vogue amongst "elitists"), it is to believe that only retarded and fat and ugly women date non-Europeans, and that is often far from being true. Unfortunately you have many pretty women (I even bet many of them are graduates) involved in inter-racial relationships.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

What is a pre-conceived idea (much en vogue amongst "elitists"), it is to believe that only retarded and fat and ugly women date non-Europeans, and that is often far from being true. Unfortunately you have many pretty women (I even bet many of them are graduates) involved in inter-racial relationships.

You mean with mental issues. Well, those too. It's the same pattern. Physical or mental.

[ArabianKnight]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

I understand your concerns for that, but most North-Africans in France consider they are Arabs. Whether they are "genetically Arabs" or not is as relevant as wondering whether Ashkenazim are authentic descendants of Isaac or Khazars.

What is a pre-conceived idea (much en vogue amongst "elitists"), it is to believe that only retarded and fat and ugly women date non-Europeans, and that is often far from being true. Unfortunately you have many pretty women (I even bet many of them are graduates) involved in inter-racial relationships.

The Ashkenazim have admited on several occassions that they are in fact, decendants of the Khazars. The Khazars adopted Jaudism and formed their own identity. Its aslo belived that the Khazars settled mostly in Poland, this was where most Ashkenazim Jews were located. In North Africa their is Berber rebirth, especially in Tunisa it seem most the people are adopting their originaly ethincity. Yes genes has proved that North African are Arabs are mostly of Berber origins, who were Arabized culturaly and liguisticaly.


Obviously, if these people have no racial, or historic connection with Palestine they have no claim to the promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel or the land known as "Israel" (Palestine) today. If this is true then there should be more evidence to support this position, and there is. The American People's Encyclopedia for 1964 at 15-292 records the following reference to Khazars:

"In the year 740 the Khazars were officially converted to Judaism. A century later they were cursed by the in-coming Slavic- speaking people and were scattered over central Europe where they were known as Jews. It is from this grouping that most German and Polish Jews are descended, and they likewise make up a considerable part of that population now found in America. The term Aschenazim is now applied to this division."


Alfred Lilienthal writes, in "What Price Israel" (Henry Regenery Co., 1953):

"Perhaps the most significant mass conversion to the Judaic Faith occurred in Europe, in the 8th century A.D., and that story of the Khazars (Turko-Finnish people) is quite pertinent to the establishment of the modern state of Israel." Again, "That the Khazars are the lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is a historical fact. Jewish historians and religious textbooks acknowledge the fact, though the propagandists of Jewish nationalism belittle it as pro-Arab propaganda


Jewish author Alfred Lilienthal further stated:

"These Ashkenazim Jews have little or no trace of Semitic blood."-p. 222, "What Price Israel."

. The Jews fully understand their Khazarian heritage as the third edition of
the Jewish Encyclopedia for 1925 records:

"Chazars: a people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of Russia." The Jewish Encyclopedia, Third Edition, 1925.


It seems that they admit this in their books, but they don't want the gentiles to know about it, because Israel will have no bases, on its ground.

As for the women even the pretty one that I have seen date non-Europeans are actually intellectually limited and very shallow. Rarely you see an intellgent women with non-Europeans. I have seen few examples and they are very rare. Interaracial relationships I belive is posion that destroys cultures and traditions. Iam not a racist, but I would to see my culture being preserved. I usually tend to adivse people against interracial relationships.

Their is up-side, usually from the interracial relationships I have seen they usually don't work out, and usually don't get childern, but if they have child its creates even more complex problems which the down side.

Interracial marriages are encouraged by the Zionist gangs in order to destroy the foundations of culture and traditions of the nations, so they can make us their cattle. Without culture the person is nothing, then the mixed Persian would identifay with the fake media created culture, and thus unknowingly he becomes a slave. I have seen many people both European and non-European who are against Interracial marriages, because they see it as what it is. They made a fad out of it with their destructive MTV

Iam Bedouin and proud of my lineage, I want my culture and traditions to be alive in my decendants, as tought by my parents. Usually Bedouins are tought from an early age not intermarry with other races and tribes, in oder to maintain our lineage. Especially with other groups like Turks,Kurds,Cricassians,Persians ecta.

I also belive if you intermarry with your own group, you showing pride for your people. People with low self-esteem tend to intermarry with other groups.