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Well, if that is true, this would mean that they were more or less contemporaneous with the earliest sites that were found by the Soviets (end of Przeworsk = about 400 AD). And it would follow that the area of the earliest Slavic archaeological culture was larger than I had thought, and not restricted to the Slavic Urheimat according to the hydronomy. Which in turn would mean that they had already spread out of the Urheimat when their typical style developped.
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Well, if that is true, this would mean that they were more or less contemporaneous with the earliest sites that were found by the Soviets (end of Przeworsk = about 400 AD). And it would follow that the area of the earliest Slavic archaeological culture was larger than I had thought, and not restricted to the Slavic Urheimat according to the hydronomy. Which in turn would mean that they had already spread out of the Urheimat when their typical style developped.
One theory I read was that (Pre-) Slavic tribes were much wider spread then already, but still not unified ethnoculturally, but from a zone of relative independence which was not fully under the rule of other ethnic groups a more independent, simple but powerful cultural group evolved which became the leading element of other groups which were formerly under the influence of various other ethnic groups.
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One theory I read was that (Pre-) Slavic tribes were much wider spread then already, but still not unified ethnoculturally, but from a zone of relative independence which was not fully under the rule of other ethnic groups a more independent, simple but powerful cultural group evolved which became the leading element of other groups which were formerly under the influence of various other ethnic groups.
The question is just how far and for how long. The fact of the relative proximity of the Slavic languages suggests a relatively recent common origin, a relatively late lingustic homeland.
Furthermore I wonder: What evidence could there be for this hypothesis? Archeological obviously not.
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To conclude, i personally think that there is something of Dinarid in the Slavic racial core. Not at the first place obviously (like Nordids), but however present.
i agree with celtic tiger. many slavs(excluding yugoslavs) look dinaro-morphic. dinaroids may not have been very common around 500AD but they are now. also yugo dinarids dont look too different from central and northern slavs dinaroids.
genetically mtDNA of bosnians and slovenes is very much like that of russians and poles.
the only diffrence one can see between bosnians and eastern and western slavs is in y haplogroup DNA. r1a and I1b ratios are inversed. thats about the only real diffrence(which is not much). the enviroment is a different factor. bosnians are obviously more dinarid and taller than other slav due to enviromental selection.
the only southern slavs that begin to differ from rest of slavs are serbs, montengrins, macedonians(they are in a way inbetween native balkans and slavs) and bulgarians the furthest way(being mostly native balkanian in origin).
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