Thalia (Mexican singer) - white or not ?

[Dirkhrod]

I was talking with a friend about Thalia, a quite well known Mexican singer and soap actress, and we were debating whether she is white (as he claims) or, as I put it "barely white", meaning I consider her something between white and latino, more on the latino side.

Here some pictures, what are your opinions ? Is she white or not ?

[Gil]

Dunno for sure, could be one of those caes of 25% this 12% that, etc, so common in the Americas.
Hot for sure though

[SouthernBoy]

No

[Strengthandhonour]

She seems mostly European, but there is some features that give it away that she is mixed.

[Gil]

More photos:




I guess she might have native american admixture somewhere.

[Hussar]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy

No

No ? Why ?

[Lada]

Originally Posted by Manji

I guess she might have native american admixture somewhere.

I agree, here are some pics of her two older sisters:

[Ederico]

First of all I do not give weight to ideas such as "white" as it is mostly an Anglo-American construct, secondly terming someone "latino" when in fact he is non-European is offensive to the true Latin people of Europa. That being said, she looks acceptable as a European type in my opinion.

[vertamocoro]

possible amerindian admixture, but she looks nonetheless caucasoid and europid to me.

[Ferran]

In this picture I can see native American and even Asian admixture... I don't think Mexico -with only a 8-10% of its inhabitants being of European origin- is a good place to search for Latin women.

[Agrippa]

The pictures are not too good for the purpose, but she is pred. European, therefore "white" but with possible, though not clearly visible admixture. Her siblings look European too, except the blond sister on the 2nd photo looks strange, but I saw European aristocrats in later age which had cosmetic surgeries looking similar to her.
She herself looks mostly Mediterranid with Alpinid admixture, slight Amerindian is possible but hard to tell from this pictures alone and if very low.

Edit: The 2nd picture group looks more Indian influenced, but still lower than 1/4 to me.

[Welund]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

The pictures are not too good for the purpose, but she is pred. European, therefore "white" but with possible, though not clearly visible admixture. Her siblings look European too, except the blond sister on the 2nd photo looks strange, but I saw European aristocrats in later age which had cosmetic surgeries looking similar to her.
She herself looks mostly Mediterranid with Alpinid admixture, slight Amerindian is possible but hard to tell from this pictures alone and if very low.

Edit: The 2nd picture group looks more Indian influenced, but still lower than 1/4 to me.

I think it's pseudo-Alpinid, as mongolid tends to be in small admixture. Her eyes are quite wide-spaced...

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Welund

I think it's pseudo-Alpinid, as mongolid tends to be in small admixture. Her eyes are quite wide-spaced...

That can occur in Alpinids either - especially in rather pure regions you see quite alot people with wide set eyes. However, you are right, same thing happened in parts of Hungary and Turkey f.e., Alpinids beside pseudo-Alpinid f.e. Dinarid-Aralid mixed individuals, sometimes hard to distinguish as even Lundman wrote.

[Vtecne]

Thalia looks like she is from a Spaniard and a Mestiza, She is a Castiza. In short "Not" pure white.

[Carnyx]

Which leads to the question :

From which percentage of admixture (in case of proven one) an individual is "acceptable" as an european europid ? Whatever the person can be sure... (Could be a hot girl or not. But doens't matter. Don't let your judgement be influenced )

[Gil]

Traditionally the view is this (at least here):

White + another group = mestiço (mestizo)
Mestiço + White = Cabrito (the spanish Castizo)
Cabrito + White = Still Cabrito but "whiter"
2nd Generation Cabrito + White = White

Dumb, I know

[ÅnÐReS]

Originally Posted by Manji

Traditionally the view is this (at least here):

White + another group = mestiço (mestizo)
Mestiço + White = Cabrito (the spanish Castizo)
Cabrito + White = Still Cabrito but "whiter"
2nd Generation Cabrito + White = White

Dumb, I know

There used to be around 33 different "categories", according to the varying degrees of admixture, in use in the Spanish American colonies.

Dumb? Probably. But some of the names were very funny.

If you look for it on thw web, you will surely find more info.

[marius]

Originally Posted by Dirkhrod

I was talking with a friend about Thalia, a quite well known Mexican singer and soap actress, and we were debating whether she is white (as he claims) or, as I put it "barely white", meaning I consider her something between white and latino, more on the latino side.

Here some pictures, what are your opinions ? Is she white or not ?

I do not know whether she is white or not and I tend to agree to the good friend Agrippa, she seems predominantly European.

Anyway, she is a beautiful one, pitty she's too little.