Sami People by themselves

[Breogan]

http://www.itv.se/boreale/samieng.htm

[Savage]

The Sámi

The Sámis are an indigenous people of the Arctic. Other indigenous peoples related to the Sámi are the Inuits in Greenland and Nenets/Komits in Russia.

Being an indegenous people means that Sámis inhabited the Nordic region, at the time of the establishment of present States boundaries and that the Sámis has retain some of their own social, economic, cultural and political institutions. Self-identification as indigenous is also regarded as a fundamental criterion for determining our status.

One people in four countires

The Sámis live in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia. The Sámis’ settlement area is called Sápmi. Sámi country stretches from the Kola peninsula in the northeast to Engerdal in South Norway and Idre in South Sweden. The Sámis are a minority in numbers in all four national states, but in central Sápmi the Sámis are in the majority.

Link to Saamithings official homesite

The Saami: People in the Land of the Midnight Sun

11 more articles on Saami on Norways official websites


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[Heretik]

What about Lapps, Lappland? I have trouble understanding the term of Saami and Lapp. Or is it just me...

[Gavril]

They're the same thing, Katera. Lapp is just an older term. As far as I know, it's deemed politically incorrect today.

[Heretik]

Thanks! I thought it might be the same but I wasn't sure.

Well I have seen some TV shows about the Saami folk and I must say I like them. Easy going folk. Beatiful folk costumes.

[Red Skull]

Lapps/Sámis are too exotic for my taste. They should stick to their own.

[Menydh]

And so must you be exotic in Sweden. Or did you think otherwise?

[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by Red Skull

Lapps/Sámis are too exotic for my taste. They should stick to their own.

There has been inter-marriage between Sámis and other Nordbor to a considerable extent, but its not something I'd worry myself with.

[Heretik]

Finns, Norwegians and swedes tried to exterminate one of the oldest people in europe. Bravo!

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Red Skull

Lapps/Sámis are too exotic for my taste. They should stick to their own.

For the first, the posting above is far off topic, but since it stands...


The Sami are the ingenious population of Sweden. Lucky for Red Skull and his family that they were generous and received Red Skull and his family, and gave them food and shelter when Red Skull and his family were not able to help themselves.

The asocial reaction of Red Skull in not uncommon among immigrants in Scandinavia. So as a pariah in the Swedish society, I can understand Red Skull's bitterness.

But if the Sami is a problem, why does not Red Scull and his immigrant family go home to Serbia, where they belong? Saami belong in Sweden, Red Skull and his family does not.

I know some of the answer. The Swedish and the Sami people have provided Red Skull and other ...guests/parasites with money, so at daytime he can sit and surf and play. If he were home in Serbia, he would perhaps have been on the head in the onion acre?

I also have read some of Red Skull's writings lately, and as I read between the lines, the despair therein are screaming. I understand that it is frustrating not to have a girl when the hormons are raging. Perhaps you could find yourself a sweet sebian girl, and get ...balanced. They are as good as the swedish ones, dont you think?


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[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by Katera

Finns, Norwegians and swedes tried to exterminate one of the oldest people in europe. Bravo!

When did Finns try to exterminate the Sámis?

[Heretik]

Erm... Maybe I'm wrong about the Finns but Norwegians and Swedes did try that. As a part of eugenics studies and that bs.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Katera

Erm... Maybe I'm wrong about the Finns but Norwegians and Swedes did try that. As a part of eugenics studies and that bs.

More lika a cultural, spiritual and linguistic extermination, by running something the governments called the "norwegianization-process", which in short were based on denial and demonization of all aspcts of Saami heritage.

The low number of Saami are mainly because most of the Saami disappeared with no tracks into the Norwegian society. There has always been natural interaction and absorbations both ways, but the latest two hundred years it was forced and organized by the State.

However it did not work, the Saami culture survived, and are up and going, stronger than ever.

But nothing of that came for free, such is something nationalists all over the world should know.



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[Menydh]

Whatever the status and/or the relation of Saamis with Scandinavians, Finns and NW Russians it is for all of them to decide, not for an outsider.

Red Skull's comment has not surprised me one bit. It is often the case that a stranger in a strange land takes up an extreme view or position on certain local issues, as if trying to make up for his lack of connection/relation with the land and the people where he lives.

Since the Saami are no strangers in those lands but native, if Saamis and Scandinavians/Finns/NW Russians have managed to co-exist in the land without significance trouble, then I don't see the problem.

So far as I know, inspite of this long co-existance, the intermixing has not been of proportions which could be perceived as significant in terms of ethnic preservation of both groups. Although this surely varies from country to country.

In the end, what is needed to remember is that the Saami are a native, non immigrant people, and that they appear to be willing to keep themselves apart (in fact more so than the Scandinavians, Finns and NW Russians, judging by the higher levels of Nordid admixture in the Saami).

[Red Skull]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

And so must you be exotic in Sweden. Or did you think otherwise?

Of course I'm exotic in Sweden.

Originally Posted by Savage

The Sami are the ingenious population of Sweden. Lucky for Red Skull and his family that they were generous and received Red Skull and his family, and gave them food and shelter when Red Skull and his family were not able to help themselves.

There is no need to bring my family into this. I have not denied that I myself am exotic in Sweden

Originally Posted by Savage

The asocial reaction of Red Skull in not uncommon among immigrants in Scandinavia. So as a pariah in the Swedish society, I can understand Red Skull's bitterness.

I am not an immigrant, but my parents are. Also, there is nothing asocial with my "reaction". It is an opinion, one that I hold because I think the Lapps/Sámis look Mongoloid. I have nothing personal against them, I even have some Lapp/Sámi friends in Stockholm.

Originally Posted by Savage

But if the Sami is a problem, why does not Red Scull and his immigrant family go home to Serbia, where they belong? Saami belong in Sweden, Red Skull and his family does not.

Why do you bring up my family? They're not here to defend themselves so you don't even have to mention them. I am aware of that I do not belong in Sweden and I have no plans of staying here. The only reason I'm here is because of my parents, and again, their staying here is their problem. Please do not speak about my family again.

Originally Posted by Savage

I know some of the answer. The Swedish and the Sami people have provided Red Skull and other ...guests/parasites with money, so at daytime he can sit and surf and play. If he were home in Serbia, he would perhaps have been on the head in the onion acre?

No one but my parents and myself have provided me with money.

Originally Posted by Savage

I also have read some of Red Skull's writings lately, and as I read between the lines, the despair therein are screaming. I understand that it is frustrating not to have a girl when the hormons are raging. Perhaps you could find yourself a sweet sebian girl, and get ...balanced. They are as good as the swedish ones, dont you think?

I already have a girlfriend. Why are you so offended by my wish for the Lapps/Sámis to preserve their genetics and culture?