Good looking and glamorous - who is it and who isn't?

[PeterThaGreat]

Originally Posted by Exeter

From what I've seen Norwegians have less stereotypical Scandinavian looks. With that I mean there are more Norwegians than Swedes who can also pass in other Northwest European countries. Keep in mind "Nordic looking" in layman terms is necessarily not the same as Scando-Nordid of physical anthropology.

Norwegians are also more golden and red haired than Swedes. They are more rural and don't dress as fashionable. Even the capital Oslo, is small compared to the capitals in the other Scandinavian countries, Stockholm and Copenhagen. If you don't believe me travel to Oslo as well as Stockholm and see the difference for yourself. You will find many more attractive people in Sweden. I thought it would have been the other way around. Nowadays there's also plenty of obesity among Norwegians. The architecture is also very different.

LOL

Sorry, but skinny, cheap-monday jeans together with black leather jackets on 9 million are big laugh in the Fashion industry. It's not really considered to be cool if everybody tries to blend in. I like Norway and Denmark 'cos I don't perceive such similar, impersonal slave mentality among them than with contempory Riksvenskar. Nowdays in Sweden, I can see the endless, desperate aim to be all similar, seem like individualism is banned in the law, this mentality is reflected in every parts of the daily life in Sweden, whether it be clothing or infatuation with low-end chainstores, It's all the same. The true chinese of the north! It's shame for such a Viking state with such a great heritage. (this is not insult to great Swedish heritage and mentality in the past, I'd be shooting my own leg if it was so and ofcourse there are always exceptional Swedes I can look up to)

BTW the woman is fairly typical Scandonordid!

[Exeter]

There's without a doubt a lot of conformism in Sweden. I rather have conformism than the ugly diversity of Londoners. I still think Swedes look the best in Scandinavia. Each to their own. Copenhagen is nice for a good night out though. Copenhagen can definitely compete with Stockholm as being the capital of Scandinavia. The Jante Law prevails in all three Scandivanian countries. You are wrong if you think people in Stureplan wear low-end clothing. People in inner city Stockholm are probably one of the most well-dressed among European capitals!

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

LOL

Sorry, but skinny, cheap-monday jeans together with black leather jackets on 9 million are big laugh in the Fashion industry. It's not really considered to be cool if everybody tries to blend in. I like Norway and Denmark 'cos I don't perceive such similar, impersonal slave mentality among them than with contempory Riksvenskar. Nowdays in Sweden, I can see the endless, desperate aim to be all similar, seem like individualism is banned in the law, this mentality is reflected in every parts of the daily life in Sweden, whether it be clothing or infatuation with low-end chainstores, It's all the same. The true chinese of the north! It's shame for such a Viking state with such a great heritage. (this is not insult to great Swedish heritage and mentality in the past, I'd be shooting my own leg if it was so and ofcourse there are always exceptional Swedes I can look up to)

BTW the woman is fairly typical Scandonordid!

[PeterThaGreat]

Originally Posted by Exeter

There's without a doubt a lot of conformism in Sweden. I rather have conformism than the ugly diversity of Londoners. I still think Swedes look the best in Scandinavia. Each to their own. Copenhagen is nice for a good night out though. Copenhagen can definitely compete with Stockholm as being the capital of Scandinavia. The Jante Law prevails in all three Scandivanian countries. You are wrong if you think people in Stureplan wear low-end clothing. People in inner city Stockholm are probably one of the most well-dressed among European capitals!

That's the key word, conformism. In a very typical Swedish way you even admitted your preference towards it as opposed to "ugly diversity of Londoners". Copenhagen & New York are fashion capitals of the world, unfortunately Stockholm still has some catching up to do. Please, I know how Stureplan gang dress, they all look they'r from 2001. Crocodile or Poloplayer marks in the left corner of your collar is really the "it" thing, you know? I prefer New York's Chelsea "plan", however I think there's a lot interesting stuff happening in Malmo at the moment. The inner city Stockholm crew may well be the most well-dressed in the world (together with Paris), not that creative, though and hopelessly "conformist". It's all probablly due to fact that in Sweden you are punished for death penalty for having a little personal a twist while doing your thing.

[Exeter]

Have you been to London? Diversity is not bad in itself. I'm talking about the kind of diversity you get in London. On the other hand some people are so ugly that it doesn't matter what they wear. Others can wear almost anything and look terrific.

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

ugly diversity of Londoners".

[PeterThaGreat]

Originally Posted by Exeter

Have you been to London? Diversity is not bad in itself. I'm talking about the kind of diversity you get in London. On the other hand some people are so ugly that it doesn't matter what they wear. Others can wear almost anything and look terrific.

I've lived there for awhile. Wasn't place to for me. Nowdays, with the cheap flights the whole place has lost its "glamourness" it's too available for everyone and full of Swedes . Frankly, I think Londoners are cool and I love England but London itself is a shithole. Cannot even compared to NYC.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

Frankly, I think Londoners are cool and I love England but London itself is a shithole. Cannot even compared to NYC.

Are you suggesting that New York City is a glamorous place?

[3rdEye]

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[Exeter]

London has always had more or less posh neighbourhoods.

I knew a Swedish student in London who moved back to Stockholm after her studies being sick of seeing being around so many ugly people. There are many Swedish students in London. You also get a good number of professionals in the city. Swedes are not the ones who make London look less glamorous.

YouTube - Sweden VS UK nightclubs
I know the video is extreme and they are comparing a trendy club in Sweden to one with chavvy people in England. It has a point though. I hope you get it.

I would like to visit NYC. Do you think it is as multi-cultural as London?

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

I've lived there for awhile. Wasn't place to for me. Nowdays, with the cheap flights the whole place has lost its "glamourness" it's too available for everyone and full of Swedes . Frankly, I think Londoners are cool and I love England but London itself is a shithole. Cannot even compared to NYC.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Exeter

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I would like to visit NYC. Do you think it is as multi-cultural as London?

Oh definitely! New York City makes London look like a Nuremberg Rally circa 1935.

[PeterThaGreat]

Originally Posted by Exeter

London has always had more or less posh neighbourhoods.

I knew a Swedish student in London who moved back to Stockholm after her studies being sick of seeing being around so many ugly people. There are many Swedish students in London. You also get a good number of professionals in the city. Swedes are not the ones who make London look less glamorous.

YouTube - Sweden VS UK nightclubs
I know the video is extreme and they are comparing a trendy club in Sweden to one with chavvy people in England. It has a point though. I hope you get it.

I would like to visit NYC. Do you think it is as multi-cultural as London?

Before I get to the point I have to answer to the numerous questions I've received of my origins. I am a Fenno-Swede, part of the Swedish minority in Finland. I live in Helsinki, Finland, not NYC.


I've seen the the classic clip. Not really making sense with Stockholms finest clubs contrasted to some football joint in Newcastle. I think English people are of the coolest and best looking on earth ( English, not necessarily British) Even in even some remote rural towns the girls have latest fashion haircuts, atleast the contrast compared to Finnland is huge; the countrygirls here smells like horseshit. As said I think modern Swedes with have lost their individuality long ago and and at worst reminds me of chinese. (there's always exceptions, though) I am sure most of them even apply the exact same brand of self-tanning creams, one might be indeed ridiculed if having another version....

NYC is by far the best city in the world in that respect. As london it's too very multi-cultural but in a very different way. I don't really have much good to say about London, the atmosphere there is way more violent as the Arab gangs loiter everywhere. NYC, or Manhattan at least is mosly of quiet and peacefull Asians and Christian Hispanics. There's not really of those Middle-Eastern gangs creating negative vibes as in London or Stockholm. Those are really the worst immigrants. There's obviously a lot of blacks in NYC, not in Manhattan though. Some of them are really bad but definitely not all. Besides they mostly live in remote areas in Brooklyn or Bronx. All in all I found NYC lot more safer with sort of upbeat vibe, it may be more multi-cultural but definitely a way better and safer than some of the European capitals, such as Paris or London.

Regards to fashion NYC is place to be.

[Galaico]

Seriously, who cares about glamour? I much prefer a good looking traditional style environment as in Santander, San Sebastián, Madrid, etc. than all that galmorous post-modernist thing. Old School Spaniard over here.

[Gavril]

What Galaico said.

[Errigal]

I would say one of the worst things to ever happen to fashion is cheap sportswear. It is fine to wear sports gear if you are playing sports, or are just about to, but people wearing football jerseys or track pants everywhere has really made the world a little uglier.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Galaico

Seriously, who cares about glamour? I much prefer a good looking traditional style environment as in Santander, San Sebastián, Madrid, etc. than all that galmorous post-modernist thing. Old School Spaniard over here.

Count me in.

The glamour that Peter is defining is that of the remnants of the Essex Man, a pos-industrial nouveau rich of the Thatcher era. Obscene in the style, vulgar in the manners, and pretentious to the point of riduculous.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Galaico

Seriously, who cares about glamour? I much prefer a good looking traditional style environment as in Santander, San Sebastián, Madrid, etc. than all that galmorous post-modernist thing. Old School Spaniard over here.

I subscribe too.