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KARDINALNA GREŠKA Nekadašnji ljubljanski nadbiskup Franz Rode osudio popularnu igru i navijanje

Kardinal nogometnu oholost uvrstio u grijeh

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Kardinal Rode previše isključiv, nogomet je zabavna društvena igra koja okuplja ljude, kaže Luka Tomašević. Nekadašnji ljubljanski nadbiskup Franc Rode iznenadio je sve ljubitelje nogometa kada je nogometnu oholost uvrstio među grijehe suvremenog svijeta.

Drago mu zbog Francuza

Naveo je da su reprezentacije Francuske i Italije najbolji primjeri nogometne oholosti pa mu je stoga bilo drago što su te dvije zemlje doživjele poraze na početku Eura.

– Francuzi se ne znaju nositi s pobjedama, nakon njih postanu previše oholi – rekao je Rode dodajući da mu je drago što je Italija izgubila 3:0 protiv Nizozemske. Slovenski kardinal trenutačno obnaša vrlo značajnu funkciju šefa Kongregacije za svećenike i redovnike, što znači da je vrlo utjecajan u Vatikanu. Njegove izjave nisu dobro primljene ni u službenim crkvenim krugovima. Neki crkveni intelektualci njegove poglede smatraju zastarjelima, potpuno izvan vremena i prostora.

Zaista je čudno što jedan visoki vatikanski dužnosnik u nogometnoj igri prije svega vidi negativnosti.

– Kardinal Rode ponaša se kao politički arbitar koji sudi o nogometu. Ne znam tko ga je ovlastio da o tome govori i odakle crpi svoje ideje – kritičan je prema kardinalu profesor moralne teologije i dekan Katoličkoga bogoslovnog fakulteta u Splitu dr. Luka Tomašević. Dodaje da je kardinal Rode previše isključiv te naglašava da je nogomet zabavna društvena igra koja okuplja ljude.

– Koliko samo Hrvatima znače nogometni uspjesi na Euru. Nogomet je pozitivan i lijep sport, osobito kad igra nacionalna momčad. Za reprezentaciju se igra zbog časti, a ne zbog novca. Uspjesi nogometne reprezentacije okupljaju ljude te daju pozitivan nacionalni naboj – kaže Tomašević dodajući da se ne može bježati od činjenice da je suvremeni nogomet, pogotovu onaj klupski, snažno obilježen utrkom za profitom te ekstremnim plaćama za nogometaše.

Bilić pogodio

Tomašević smatra da je hrvatski izbornik Slaven Bilić popularan zato što mu novac nije na prvom mjestu. – Bilić je pogodio bilo naroda. Prepoznao je narodne vrijednosti i u takvom duhu odgaja igrače – ističe dr. Tomašević dodajući da se po izjavama hrvatskih igrača vidi da imaju dobrog učitelja.
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Koliko se sjecam kler je tu da bi brinuo o duhovnoj strani zivota svog stada a ne politickom ili sportskom. Jos jednom se pokazuje da crkva mora ubosti svoj nos u svaku poru zivota i pokusati upravljati ovcama.
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Koliko se sjecam kler je tu da bi brinuo o duhovnoj strani zivota svog stada a ne politickom ili sportskom. Jos jednom se pokazuje da crkva mora ubosti svoj nos u svaku poru zivota i pokusati upravljati ovcama.
Zar to svi ne rade, od političara i novinara pa na dalje? Pa zašto ne bi i Crkva?

Ja osobno mislim da je temeljna kardinalova greška u ovom slučaju to što je precijenio nogomet i rezultate nogometnih natjecanja uzdigao na razinu tolike važnosti, da je pojedine stavove vezane za te rezultate proglasio "grijehom". Grijeh je ozbiljan pojam, preozbiljan da bi se rabio u ovako trivijalnom kontekstu. Uvjerljiviji bi bio da je kritizirao općenito sklonost suvremenog društva da preveliku pozornost posvećuje stvarima koje je ne zaslužuju, da neozbiljne stvari shvaća preozbiljno, kao što je to u slučaju nogometa.
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Zar to svi ne rade, od političara i novinara pa na dalje? Pa zašto ne bi i Crkva?

Ja osobno mislim da je temeljna kardinalova greška u ovom slučaju to što je precijenio nogomet i rezultate nogometnih natjecanja uzdigao na razinu tolike važnosti, da je pojedine stavove vezane za te rezultate proglasio "grijehom". Grijeh je ozbiljan pojam, preozbiljan da bi se rabio u ovako trivijalnom kontekstu. Uvjerljiviji bi bio da je kritizirao općenito sklonost suvremenog društva da preveliku pozornost posvećuje stvarima koje je ne zaslužuju, da neozbiljne stvari shvaća preozbiljno, kao što je to u slučaju nogometa.
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Zar to svi ne rade, od političara i novinara pa na dalje?
Rade naravno... I... Je li nam drago zbog toga?

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Pa zašto ne bi i Crkva?
Zato sto time dodatno plase one vjernike koji zbilja vjeruju u ono sto papa, kardinali i sl. kazu.
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Problem je temeljni. i dalje mislim, što se nogomet preozbiljno shvaća.
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A gle, to je veliki biznis pa se i mora shvacati ozbiljno jebiga.
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A gle, to je veliki biznis pa se i mora shvacati ozbiljno jebiga.
Nije sporno kad oni koji su direktno uključeni u taj biznis njega shvaćaju ozbiljno, nego kad se drugi, koji nemaju veze s tim, previše užive u to.

Ne podržavam ni kardinalovu izjavu, bez veze je sve to skupa podići na toliku moralizatorsku razinu.
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Da, navijaci su popizdili u potpunosti. Gledao sam Dinamo - Linfield (1-1 majko mila!) pa su skandirali protiv Hrgovica, a kad je Kranjcar dosao u Hajduk docekalo ga je 10 000 ljudi kao junaka.

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