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An interesting video about subculture of immigrants from Balkan (mostly Bosnia and Serbia) and Slovenia, and what I would call a degeneration of Serbian culture, typical to American degeneration of European culture(s) (Italian-Americans, Spanish-Americans, Irish-Americans etc.). The first part of the video is from some documentary about immigrants that came here in 70is, while second part is more interesting because it shows the 3rd generation of immigrants. It is also interesting to note that there is no trace of any Balkan conflicts between immigrants of different (Balkan) origin here, but they are all "brothers" and "čefurji" and share common anti-Slovenian mentality.
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cefurji.net

I was just reminded of this website. Official website of Balkan immigrants in Slovenia, also a lot of Slovenians post there.

If I was Serb, I would be VERY angry at those guys for making a mockery of my nation.
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I think the situation in Slovenia is pretty bad when it comes to "čefurji".

If we're talkin about a group of teenagers (15-20) who are in most cases the second generation of immigrants from Bosnia(bosniaks and Serbs), Montenegro, Macedonia, gypsies and albanians, who are in most cases fallowed with some idiotic Slovene, maybe even a Croat.They are sceared, primitive non-educated assholes which express their "power" (they use term "zajebani") by walking around like having 140pound, wear cheap "golden" blings and are doing just one thing.

They just bother the others (the one who can't fight, in most cases you even have a chance, they "work" in groups), steal around, rape, sell drugs .. they are here to make your life worse.

Another thing which is expanded around is their turbofolk "music. Usually the text is something like "you left me alone, i'll go the another man.." followed with strong turkish elements. Most of youth is listening to that crap which cannot be called "music". Actually their primitive elements are everywhere.


This became a rarely scene, that's because they came from such a primitive environment to Slovenia, and they think they deserve everything just because the others are cultural, and not ready to use only but a force to fix a problems.

But, unfortunately there's a number of Slovenians who defend them. Not only that, almost all of them have a Slovene (white) "girls", and have a number of fans => Slovene who are not used to that even imitate them by not going to school, dressing like them, even consider themselves as theirs,..

I think every Slovene who lives in urban range have their own experiencess so feel free to share them.

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But, unfortunately there's a number of Slovenians who defend them. Not only that, almost all of them have a Slovene (white) "girls", and have a number of fans => Slovene who are not used to that even imitate them by not going to school, dressing like them, even consider themselves as theirs,..


Anyway... aren't you an immigrant?
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Not all immigrants are like them, that has to be pointed out. Especially among Croats here it's a rather rear thing, I can't really remember any Croat "čefur" at the moment, although there are surely some, but very few compared to other Balkan (or ex-Yu) immigrants.
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Vincent I won't answer on your cynical provocation. I see you can't sleep well at night because I'm a Croat, and you're Serb. What's your point man?

Maybe you didn't get me in the right way. If you've some problems with me please PM me and lets talk. I don't wont to turn the whole debate in freeposting.

M.R this guy has no clue about the situation in Slovenia. "Čefurs" have followers even around Croats and Slovenians, that just make the situation worst.
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Vincent I won't answer on your cynical provocation. I see you can't sleep well at night because I'm a Croat, and you're Serb. What's your point man?
Hell! All these years, and I didn't even know

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Vincent, you're Serbian? O_O I never knew! After all these years I finally learn it!
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I think the situation in Slovenia is pretty bad when it comes to "čefurji".

If we're talkin about a group of teenagers (15-20) who are in most cases the second generation of immigrants from Bosnia(bosniaks and Serbs), Montenegro, Macedonia, gypsies and albanians, who are in most cases fallowed with some idiotic Slovene, maybe even a Croat.
I thought the čefurji were mostly Croats, Serbs and Bosniaks (in that order). AFAIK, there are very few Macedonians in Slovenia.

Are they sort of like the gopniki in Russia?
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I thought the čefurji were mostly Croats, Serbs and Bosniaks (in that order).
It's rather in opposite order. The term was first used for Bosniaks only, I think. As for Macedonians, I didn't see any čefurji waving Macedonian flag or making a parody out of Macedonian identity, so probably there aren't much Macedonian čefurji in Slovenia.
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It's rather in opposite order. The term was first used for Bosniaks only, I think. As for Macedonians, I didn't see any čefurji waving Macedonian flag or making a parody out of Macedonian identity, so probably there aren't much Macedonian čefurji in Slovenia.
FYROMians make a small portion of the population in Slovenia. According to the last cenus the nmbers are 38,964 Serbs, 35,642 Croats, 21,542 Bosniaks (+10,467 declared just as "Muslims" and 8m062 as "Bosnians"). There are 3,972 "macedonians".
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Btw, just so you know, I'm neutral on this Macedonia name thing, I used the name because we call them so in Slovenia.
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