What do you think of other Slavic nations?

[Khozinsky]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

...Emir (now Nemanja) Kusturica. He knows his roots and covnerted back to Orthodoxy.

If I were Orthodox, I'd like him

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Khozinsky

If I were Orthodox, I'd like him

You shoot like him. As a neoheathen you would love his movies as they are so heretical. Like in Balck Cat, White Cat the gcriminals cross is filled with cocaine.

[Khozinsky]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

As a neoheathen you would love his movies as they are so heretical.

I don't like heretical movies - I like good ones And his movies are good... That's why I like them. It doesn't matter, if he is Orthodox or not. It was just a joke, I'm not fanatic.

[Heretik]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

The only Muslim slavs I like are Gorani, they can be considered Slavs. They live in the most southern region of Kosovo and they view themselves as defenders of Serbia's southern flank. Not only that but they are such heretical Muslims since they still celebrate some christian elements. Not only that but every Gorani I've met eats sausages -- disqualifying them from being Muslim.

I know one who claims he's goranin and he's pretty much anti-serbian.

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

The only non-Gorani Slavic Muslim I like is probably Emir (now Nemanja) Kusturica. He knows his roots and covnerted back to Orthodoxy.

Blood is not water.

[Srbobran]

Katera, most Gorani are very pro-Serbian. despite being Muslim, they still celebrate a Slava and St.Sava. However, Crvena Zvezda, many quality Muslim Slavs are also found in the Rascia area of Serbia.

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Many historians have believed that the ancient Bulgars were a Turkic people. However, I think that it is more plausible to think that they were related to the Indo-Iranian Sarmatians or the Indo-European Scythians.

This map gives the location of the Sarmatians and the Scythians in the year ~100 BC


Now compare it with the location of the Bulgars ~650 AD


Some interesting information on the Proto-Bulgars: Rasho Rashev - On the origin of the Proto-Bulgarians (1992)

the bulgarian state in Ukraine was established in the 620 A.D. by the bulgarians who came as refugees from their previous state Bactria. But generally protobulgarians were classified as skyts(many other nations also formed this generalized term.)
Protobulgarians who came to modern day bulgaria were about 1 000 000. Khan Asparuh our first ruler in the danube Bulgaria deported the slavic tribes living there to the northern bordev of the state(north of danube) so that the recently came bulgarians can set up here. In the next years the population doubled. So if we have something in common with slavs its only our language(which still has many Persian words in it, as an evidence of our Bactrian origin)

[Zbruch]

Russia - Our first friends and protectors.I call them brothers.They had very strong military equipment and the strongest army on the planet.And very beautiful womans

Belorussia - Also brothers since i consider them russians.
Ukraine - Also brothers since i consider them russians.Kiev is a very beautiful city.
Serbia - Our slavic neighbours.Most bulgarians hate them but i dont.My gf is a half serbian too
Macedonia - I consider them bulgarians.
Croatia - Proud slavic nation with beautiful places to visit.
Slovenia - Nice slavic country.I respect their unique culture and history.
Slovakia - I connect them with the Great Moravia and their rich history too.
Chech republic - They are also proud of their slavic origin and heritage.Jan Hus is a great slavic hero and i respect chechs because they fought many times with the german occupants.
Poland - Big slavic nation with a rich culture and traditions. Jan Sobiesky saved europe from the turkish skum.Their cavarly is known all around Europe too.

[Superstar]

Russians - Have been friends with a few and they were very, very good people. A couple I have come across seemed to be stuck up though and looked far more mediterranean than they would ever admit.

Poles - Have crossed paths with a few and the impression I got was that they want to distance themselves from southern Slavs. They seem to consider themselves as proper Slavs and Balkan people as something completely different. And again, some Poles I've met looked even more mediterranean than me.

Ukranians - Love them because they accept who they are and I have never come across one who was rude towards me.

Czechs - There doesn't seem to be a Slavic awareness with the ones I met. They look like halfway Germans and their women are beautiful.

Slovaks - Never come across one before but I'm asuming they are like Czechs, just less German looking.

Slovenes - Like Poles. They think they are northern Europeans and don't want to be seen as being related to southern Slavs.

Bulgarians - I have never met one in real life (that I can recall) but EVERY SINGLE one I have come across on the Internet seems to be on a mission to convince the world that Macedonians are Bulgarians. They seem to be exactly like the Greeks and sometimes join forces until they start arguing about how the Macedonian land should be split between them. I would like to get along with them but they make it impossible.

Croats - Extremely tall people. I have Croat friends (and a Croat g/f once) and they are like brothers to me. Some seem to be like Poles and Slovenes though and consider themselves as non-Balkan people but most are happy with what they are.

Serbs - Very similar to Croats; also extremely tall and I don't really see much difference (had two Serb g/f's in the past). Consider them as brothers too. However, a few are popping up on the Internet lately joining Greeks and Bulgarians in their quest to deny our identity. I just assume they are pimple faced teenagers born in the 90's who view anything before their birth as ancient history.


In general, I would love to get along with all fellow Slavic people but some it seems don't actually want to get along with me for being a southern Slav or for identifying myself as something they don't agree with. Shame, because I feel that we Slavic people have more in common than just language.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Superstar

Bulgarians - I have never met one in real life (that I can recall) but EVERY SINGLE one I have come across on the Internet seems to be on a mission to convince the world that Macedonians are Bulgarians. They seem to be exactly like the Greeks and sometimes join forces until they start arguing about how the Macedonian land should be split between them.

Who knows? Maybe they are right and Macedonia should be split.

All we know is that it is arguable that a concept of a 'Macedonian' ethnicity even exists, starting with the fact that the claims of self-labeled Macedonians being the true descendents of ancient Macedonians is at least as laughable (if not more) than the claims of Bulgarians and Greeks that you are laughing about.

[Ariets]

shame of you Superstar saying so BS things on Poles

[Sergius]

Originally Posted by Superstar

Poles - And again, some Poles I've met looked even more mediterranean than me.

Mediterranean? Oh my God! Untermensch alert!

[Kan Yuvigi Asparukh]

Superstar, you told that you've never met a Bulgarian in your life. That's why you still think that you are not Bulgarian

[Marulus]

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

Mediterranean? Oh my God! Untermensch alert!

We need Polak urgently to dispel the myth that some Poles might be Mediterranean...

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Who knows? Maybe they are right and Macedonia should be split.

They are all wrong, and Macedonia shouldn't be split. That's primarily because Macedonians have already formed their national identity and they are too proud to be considered as either Greeks or Bulgarians. I personally know a Macedonian who would rather die, than see his county divided by those nations.
Macedonians

All we know is that it is arguable that a concept of a 'Macedonian' ethnicity even exists, starting with the fact that the claims of self-labeled Macedonians being the true descendents of ancient Macedonians is at least as laughable (if not more) than the claims of Bulgarians and Greeks that you are laughing about.

It's really stupid of them to think they descend solely from the ancient Macedonians, but who are we to judge who can call himself Macedonian and who can't?
It's primarily their choice, and I respect that.

[Superstar]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Who knows? Maybe they are right and Macedonia should be split.

All we know is that it is arguable that a concept of a 'Macedonian' ethnicity even exists, starting with the fact that the claims of self-labeled Macedonians being the true descendents of ancient Macedonians is at least as laughable (if not more) than the claims of Bulgarians and Greeks that you are laughing about.

I'm not disputing that they shouldn't argue their case, I'm just pointing out that every single Bulgarian online seems to be obsessed with trying to prove their point on the Macedonian issue and from a Macedonians perspective, it's extremely irritating. I can't go to any forum or look at any youtube video without some Bulgarian or some Greek being rude and disrespectful towards me for simply being what I' am.

Originally Posted by Ariets

shame of you Superstar saying so BS things on Poles

I apologise if I offended but I only wrote from my (admittedly limited) experience.

[Superstar]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

It's really stupid of them to think they descend solely from the ancient Macedonians, but who are we to judge who can call himself Macedonian and who can't?
It's primarily their choice, and I respect that.

I agree with you and, like I've mentioned before, I personally don't claim direct descendancy from ancient Macedonians. However, I refuse to believe two things:

A - That all modern Greeks are direct descendants from ancient Greeks.

B - That the DNA of ancient Macedonians somehow completely dissapeared and all modern day Macedonians are purely Bulgarian.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

They are all wrong, and Macedonia shouldn't be split. That's primarily because Macedonians have already formed their national identity and they are too proud to be considered as either Greeks or Bulgarians. I personally know a Macedonian who would rather die, than see his county divided by those nations.

From what I've gathered their composition looks rather as that of Bulgarians.

It's really stupid of them to think they descend solely from the ancient Macedonians, but who are we to judge who can call himself Macedonian and who can't?
It's primarily their choice, and I respect that.

There is a region called Macedon, which is not in the Republic of Skopje..



... and which apparently it coincides with the ancient territory of Macedonia.



You don't create an ethnicity overnight and out of the blue. And less so taking the name of another people, and then demand respect.

It looks like a farce.