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I'm interested in history and meaning of Kolovrat (Slavic swastika) and variations of that symbol.

Can someone write explanation or post a good article?
I'd be grateful.
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This wikipedia article pretty much sums it up.
Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Thanks but I'm looking for more details than that.
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Thanks but I'm looking for more details than that.
I also am trying to find something about it on the internet, for a longer time now, but with no useful results so far.
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This site is actually pretty good:
Table of the [swastika] Slav symbols

The only problem is that it's written in Russian cyrillic, so the only way to get some info is to translate the page.
Here's the Babelfish translation.
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If you understand Slovenian, you can read it here, I'll probably sum it up for other members later.

It's used by this pro-pagan/neo-pagan (whatever) organization here:

http://ajdi.org/slike/praz/ivanje/172_7241.JPG
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This site is actually pretty good:
Table of the [swastika] Slav symbols

The only problem is that it's written in Russian cyrillic, so the only way to get some info is to translate the page.
Here's the Babelfish translation.
Damn, you filled me with hope!!!

It's Hindu stuff + Russian chauvinism. Zarathustra was apparently 'an ancient Slavonic Priest'!

Valkiriya is described as a word in the 'ancient Scandinavian dialect of the Russian language'.

I hate the popularity of paganism, and the fools it attracts, as the amount of rubbish you have to wade thru to find the truth is very tiresome.
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Zarathustra was apparently 'an ancient Slavonic Priest'!
Really? Thanks for the information. Every day I learn new things.

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Damn, you filled me with hope!!!

It's Hindu stuff + Russian chauvinism. Zarathustra was apparently 'an ancient Slavonic Priest'!
I guess I had to read it first... I just superficially looked at the summary and thought it was good. It's a FreakWatch material for sure.
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Same here. Do you have some sources, or articles?
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I hate the popularity of paganism, and the fools it attracts, as the amount of rubbish you have to wade thru to find the truth is very tiresome.
Tell me about it. I'm considering tattooing kolovrat and the last thing I want is to be identified with some neopagan dancing around fire hippie idiots.
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I guess I had to read it first... I just superficially looked at the summary and thought it was good. It's a FreakWatch material for sure.
Oh aye! The thing to do with this sort of thing is just scan it for funny words to look up in more reputable sources.
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Same here. Do you have some sources, or articles?
I wish!
Rybakov's Yazychestvo Drevnykh Slavyan (Paganism of the Ancient Slavs) is good, but he doesn't really go into Balkan matters much. I don't know if he's been translated.
The Kolovrat should be looked at in a broader European context, and also on the micro level, in terms of the folklore of its use in embroidery and plastic arts, and what the embroider and craftsman thought they were depicting.
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Just some Slavic art, including the kolovrat, I gathered throughout time...














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Tell me about it. I'm considering tattooing kolovrat and the last thing I want is to be identified with some neopagan dancing around fire hippie idiots.

I thought you like dancing naked around camp fires.

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