Large parts of Finnmark returned to owners.

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From Saturday the northern county of Finnmark will be owned by its residents, "Finnmarkingene". Source



Sameting President Aili Keskitalo and Justice Minister Knut Storberget congratulate each other at the ceremony.

Tomorrow the Norwegian state will release an area worth NOK 35 billion (USD 5.56 billion) to the residents of Finnmark County. Up until now the state has owned Finnmark, with only about five percent of the county, which is the size of Denmark, in private hands.

Now the elected representatives of the Sameting, the Sami parliament, and the county council will be in charge, via the company Finnmarkseiendommen (Finnmark Property).

Crown Prince Haakon was present for the occasion, the formal ceremony taking place at Brennelvnes in Lakselv, in the middle of Finnmark. Fisheries Minister Helga Pedersen, Justice Minister Knut Storberget and Minister of Labor and Social Inclusion Bjarne Håkon Hanssen took part in the official transfer of the deed to Egil Olli, the chairman of Finnmarkseiendommen.

The transfer is the largest of its type in Norway, and encompasses 45,000 square kilometers (17,375 square miles) of natural resources and riches.

"This is a great day. We won't be able to quite understand exactly how important this day really is," Olli said.

The previously state-owned land will become common property for Finnmark's populace. Now a major mapping of possible claims of rights to local property begins, and a special commission will assess these applications, with a special tribunal set up to settle eventual disputes.

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Norway's Sami people seek their share of oil wealth Source
As Norway's government gears to open up Arctic areas for oil exploration, the country's indigenous people not only want to protect their interests, but they want their fair share of the riches that oil and gas can bring.

The Russian-American oil company Polar Lights is extracting oil from its new drilling operation on the Russian tundra. Its pipelines cross land where natives have tended reindeer for generations.

Indigenous peoples all over the far north fear they'll be pressured from all sides when the hunt for oil and gas really begins to take off. Looming battles with the likes of oil majors and government authorities can be daunting.

The various groups, including Norway's Sami people, are trying to team up to create a common platform to negotiate land rights and a share of the profits in energy resources that are extracted.

In some areas, they're demanding training and jobs in the oil industry, while elsewhere they're demanding ownership stakes in various pending projects.

In Norway's most northern county of Finnmark, special laws have been passed which will grant the Sami people decision-making authority.

There are roughly 100 indigenous groups living in the area north of the Arctic Circle. Most have traditionally lived off the land, primarily herding reindeer. They've always held long-term views, to ensure that the next generation can live off the land as well.

They're likely the first groups to mark global warming, or other environmental damage that may result from oil and gas projects. They've already felt the effects of increased tourism, commercial fishing, hydro-electric power plants and mining.

When the oil companies start arriving, they may be squeezed. Cultural conflicts and language barriers loom, and the national parliaments governing the areas are thousands of kilometers away. At the same time, many see the potential for economic development.

Norway is considered to be at the forefront in taking Sami interests into consideration. The Sami have their own parliament (Sametinget), for example, and they must be consulted on all issues affecting them.

Aili Keskitalo, president of the Sametinget, remains concerned. She claims the Sami should receive funding from the Foreign Ministry to help them protect their rights, and she hopes that the oil companies will take their own ethical guidelines seriously.


TH comments: That is the right style, take every stolen inch back. Make every Finnmarking and Sami multi millionaires. To hell with the rest of Norway. North american natives should have a lecture or two to learn here.

Not a bad deal for a nation consider inferior by the nazioid losers. Even the jew-monsters could not have done that better. 100 000 inhabitants represented by the Samithing now controls an area the size of Denmark, and with natural ressources considered worth unwriteable amounts. Maybe we buy England, tow it out midatlantic, and sink it there. London should become an useful fishing bank.

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I have a few questions about this.

What impact does this have on Norway's owned oil production, in terms of oil exploits going now to the hands of Samis?

Are the Samis (and Sami owned companies) going to pay taxes to the Norwegian government, or will they pay them to some autonomous government?

Also, I've noticed that a large number of Samis (probably the majority of the Sami population?) have large degrees of Nordic admixture. The obvious thing would be to think that this mixing went in both directions, and that non-Sami Norwegians also have a fair degree of Sami admixture in return. Are there any studies on this? Any idea how is it for other Scandinavian countries and Finland?

Another area would be Greenland/Iceland. A Dane who lived for a time in Greenland told me that many Inuits there also showed a degree of admixture with Scandinavians. Apparently since ancient and until recent. According to the CIA World Factbook, the population of Greenland is composed of a 88% Inuit and 12% Danish and others. Not that the source is the great, but still it may be around there. Only that this doesn't take into account how much Danish admixture there is in the Inuits, nor how much Inuit admixture in the Danish. I think that we can safely asume a fairly large Mestizo population there.

It remains to be seen how much of the admixed population travelled back to Iceland.

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Looking at a post on another site, I found a quoted link to Ancestry by DNA's FAQ. In the linked page it says:

I thought I was purely of Scandinavian origin, but my results show minor East Asian admixture. How is this result possible?

In our testing we’ve observed a number of samples from Scandinavia and Eastern Europe that exhibit some East Asian admixture. This is probably due to past migrations and is possibly telling us something about the interaction of various groups in those regions. In addition, cultures from these areas traveled to region of Asia and it does not seem unreasonable that children may have been produced from some of these travels introducing new genetic markers into the Scandinavian population.

http://www.ancestrybydna.com/welcome/faq/#q13

There the question remains the same as in the past, but the answer used to be slightly different:

I thought I was purely of Scandinavian origin, but my results show minor East Asian admixture. How is this result possible?

DNAPrint has found that many individuals reporting pure Scandinavian ancestry register with detectible East Asian admixture as well. This result may obtain through contribution of the Lapps, indigenous Scandinavians who share physical features, culture and common history with Northern Asian populations. Because DNAPrint’s Ancestry tests is the first such test ever developed to query all of the human DNA, these results represent original interpretations of the structure inherent to modern day populations and may have exciting implications for our understanding of our anthropological history of the Scandinavian region. If your results show significant East Asian admixture (greater than 5%), you should rest assured that at the level of DNA you share some greater affiliation with East Asians. Even though we cannot go back into time and prove exactly how this affiliation came to be, the history of the Scandinavian region gives us an important clue. One excellent example of a genetic study showing that a particular Scandinavian population has East Asian ancestry, was carried out by Rick Kittles and collaborators on a several sample of Finish from different regions of Finland (Kittles et al. 2000).

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Originally Posted by Thore Hund

.... That is the right style, take every stolen inch back. Make every Finnmarking and Sami multi millionaires. To hell with the rest of Norway. North american natives should have a lecture or two to learn here.

....Maybe we buy England, tow it out midatlantic, and sink it there. London should become an useful fishing bank.

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To hell with the rest of Norway are abusrd, we are ONE nation.
Haha, and humanity already are in hell...

But the years of usurpation of Finnmark gives payback for the Finnmarkings. All kinds of riches has been taken out without reivestments. Then comes the Church and the States attack on Sami culture. Finnmark has been keep poor to enrich the Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, and Russian crown. Often to several of them similar. Payback and compensation are natural.

As the Norwegian king in publicly has excused Norwegian arrogance and ignorance upon Sami, I also expects a generally more respectful attitude especially from English according to own experience.

The project of towing England midatlantic, and sink it there, are no seroius threath,
just keep the nightcap on, have some warm milk and a bisquit, and go safely to bed again...

And Norwegians shall not fear to wake up in hell either.

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Originally Posted by Mynydd

I have a few questions about this.

What impact does this have on Norway's owned oil production, in terms of oil exploits going now to the hands of Samis?

Under negutiations. But it is better for business, than for the enviroment

Are the Samis (and Sami owned companies) going to pay taxes to the Norwegian government, or will they pay them to some autonomous government?

http://forum.stirpes.net/showthread....1163#post81163

Also, I've noticed that a large number of Samis (probably the majority of the Sami population?) have large degrees of Nordic admixture. The obvious thing would be to think that this mixing went in both directions, and that non-Sami Norwegians also have a fair degree of Sami admixture in return. Are there any studies on this? Any idea how is it for other Scandinavian countries and Finland?

The norwegian saga kings mainly comes from 2 pairs of siren,
according to Snorri and other trusted sagas.

The one pair is Harald Harfair and his queen Snefrid. The other pair is Erik Blodaxe and his queen Gunnhild. Harald also breeded kings with his other queens but the lappoid branch was the last standing, by Sigurd Rises branchthe source linked to here are wrong at one point, Sigursd mother was Snefrid, or Snøfrid, daughter of Svåse the Finn king. ( finn=sami here )
, Halvdan Sigurdson, Sigurd Syr,, Harald Hardråde, King of Norway, and Halvdan Sigurdson, who were grandfather to Duncan II King of Scotland,
and Ingiborg Finnsdottir of Queen of Scotland, and Erlend II Earl of Orkney, Magnus den hellige Earl of Orkney, and others with lappoid admixture.

Snefrid was pure lappid, and Gunnhild was puchased from a lappid magicians tent in Finnmark
1000 years ago the Sami areas also was much further south, Samis also used Dovre and the surrounding areas. The wild reindeer flocks at Hardangervidda comes from animals escaped from samis.

Also through the norwegian saga kings, the sami genes are already spread, both widely in Scandinavia, and to the rest of Europe. The kings was eager to spread their genes.

According to Snorre, Harald Hairfair got possessed by and married Snefrid. She was a fullblood sami girl from Dovre. They had four sons, of which Sigurd Rise became the one of Haralds sons that beget the only branch that still was ruling after 1047.

All Snefrids sons were cunning in seid and galdr, this was not popular among other throne pretendents, they got killed one by one, exept of Sigurd Rise, who were forefather to Harald Hardråde

After him comes lesser kings like Halfdan Sigurdson and Sigurd Syr, and from then starts a line of kings that became sole rulers over the whole Norway again, the great Harald Hardråde, after him Olav Kyrre, Magnus Haraldson, Håkon Toresfostre, and Magnus Berrføtt, which all kings after 1103 comes from, his 4 sons that for a while shared the country, Harald Gille, Olav Magnusson, Øystein Magnusson,and the great Sigurd Jorsalfar, after these, Magnus Blinde, Magnus Erlingsson, Sigurd Munn, Inge Krokrygg, Øystein Haraldsson, his son Magnus, and Sigurds son Håkon Herdebrei.Until 1145 we had 16-18 kings of sub-sami offspring, among these, some of our greatest.

Harald Hardråde was for a while king of Norway, Denmark and England, which he by a deal lawfully inherited from king Knut the Mighty, the founder of Danelaw. Harald later fell at Stamford Bridge in 1066.

Haralds "rule" of Danewealth was only nominal and lasted just for few months. But as he has some sami offspring, one could say that also England have had a lappoid king.

So the sami gene are already present in our history as in very many norwegians, and in scandinavians and europeans.

Sigurd Jorsalfar may even have spread the gene to Jewrusalem, Hellas, Balkan, Sicily and Bysants.

As we know from the sagas, interbreeding was not uncommon in Hålogaland. Before year 1000, there also was some immigration from Lofoten to Iceland. It should not surprise me if also Iceland got its share,

Another area would be Greenland/Iceland. A Dane who lived for a time in Greenland told me that many Inuits there also showed a degree of admixture with Scandinavians. Apparently since ancient and until recent. According to the CIA World Factbook, the population of Greenland is composed of a 88% Inuit and 12% Danish and others. Not that the source is the great, but still it may be around there. Only that this doesn't take into account how much Danish admixture there is in the Inuits, nor how much Inuit admixture in the Danish. I think that we can safely asume a fairly large Mestizo population there.

It remains to be seen how much of the admixed population travelled back to Iceland.

As we know from the sagas, socialization between these were not uncommon in Hålogaland. Before year 1000, there also was some immigration from Lofoten to Iceland. It should not surprise me if also Iceland got its share. Also stories of Sami trade wirth Iceland can be found. Finnbows...Finnboga. FSami, or lapps in the sagas are considered good boatbuliders. The Ship Ormen Lange was of model after a ship build by Sami boatbuilders for the Hålogaland chief Ramm Raude
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hålogaland

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PROCEDURES FOR CONSULTATIONS BETWEEN CENTRAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES AND THE SAMI PARLIAMENT
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As an indigenous people, the Sami have a right to be consulted in matters that may affect them directly. In order to ensure that work in connection with matters that may affect the Sami directly is performed satisfactorily, the Government and the Sami Parliament agree to base consultations between Central Government authorities and the Sami Parliament on the enclosed procedural guidelines.

Oslo, 11 May 2005

Erna Solberg
Minister of Local Government
and Regional Development
Sven-Roald Nystø
President of the Sami Parliament

1. Purpose

The purpose of the procedures is to:

provide a practical implementation of the Central Government’s obligations under international law to consult indigenous peoples.
seek to reach agreement between central government authorities and the Sami Parliament whenever consideration is being given to implementation of legislation or measures that may directly affect Sami interests.
facilitate the development of a partnership perspective between Central Government authorities and the Sami Parliament that has a strengthening effect on Sami culture and society.
develop joint understanding of the situation and developmental needs of the Sami community.

2. Scope and extent
The consultation procedures apply to the Government, ministries, directorates and other subordinate agencies.
The consultation procedures apply in matters that may directly affect Sami interests. The substantive scope of consultations may include various types of matter, such as Acts, regulations, individual decisions, guidelines, measures and decisions (e.g. in Reports to the Storting).
The consultation obligation may include all ideal and material forms of Sami culture. Relevant concerns may for example be music, theatre, literature, art, media, language, religion, cultural heritage, intellectual property rights and traditional knowledge, place names, health and social welfare, day care facilities for children, education, research, property rights and rights of use, land utilization and encroachment cases, business development, reindeer husbandry, fisheries, land use, mineral activities, wind power, hydroelectric power, sustainable development, preservation of cultural heritage, biodiversity and nature conservation.
In matters associated with the material cultural basis, such as land disposal, land encroachments and land rights, the geographical scope of consultations (traditional Sami areas) the counties of Finnmark, Troms, Nordland and Nord-Trøndelag and the municipalities of Osen, Roan, Åfjord, Bjugn, Rissa, Selbu, Meldal, Rennebu, Oppdal, Midtre Gauldal, Tydal, Holtålen and Røros in Sør-Trøndelag, Engerdal and Rendalen, Os, Tolga, Tynset and Folldal municipalities in Hedmark, and Surnadal and Rindal municipalities in Møre og Romsdal.
Matters of a general nature that can be assumed to affect society as a whole will not in principle be subject to the consultation obligation.
3. Information
Central Government authorities shall provide full information concerning relevant matters that may directly affect the Sami and concerning relevant concerns at all stages of dealing with such matters.

4. Public disclosure
Information exchanged between Central Government authorities and the Sami Parliament in connection with consultations may be exempted from public disclosure provided that it is authorised by law. Freedom of information shall be practised. The final positions of the parties in individual matters shall be made public.
5. Regular meetings
Regular half-yearly policy meetings shall be held between the Minister responsible for Sami matters and the President of the Sami Parliament. Ministers of the various specialist ministries may attend these meetings as needed. The regular half-yearly policy meetings shall raise matters concerning the situation and developmental needs of the Sami community, matters of a fundamental nature and ongoing processes.
Regular half-yearly meetings shall be held between the Sami Parliament and the Interministerial Coordinating Committee for Sami Matters. Information on relevant Sami policy matters in the coming months shall be provided at meetings.

6. General provisions concerning the consultation procedures
The consutations with the Sami Parliament shall take place in good faith with the aim of reaching agreement on proposed measures.
Central Government authorities as early as possible inform the Sami Parliament concerning the commencement of relevant matters that may directly affect the Sami and concerning which Sami interests and conditions shall be affected.
After the Sami Parliament has been informed concerning relevant matters, the Sami Parliament shall as rapidly as possible notify whether further consultations are desired.
The Sami Parliament shall also be able to raise matters concerning which the Sami Parliament wishes to conduct consultations.
If Central Government authorities and the Sami Parliament agree that further consultations shall be held on a specific matter, a joint attempt shall be made to agree on a plan for these consutations, including the dates and venues for further contact (e.g. meetings, video-conferences, telephone contact, exchange of written material), time limits for responses, any need forconsultations at the political level and the type of political proceedings. Sufficient time shall be allowed to carry out genuine consultations and political consideration of proposals. Any plenary consideration of the matter concerned by the Sami Parliament must take place as early as possible.
When necessary for consideration of the matters concerned, provisions shall be made for holding a number of meetings and that consideration of matters shall not be discontinued while the Sami Parliament and the Government consider that it is possible for agreement to be reached.
In matters dealt with by the Government, it shall be clearly stated in the submission to other affected ministries in what concerns agreement with the Sami Parliament has been reached and, if appropriate, on what concerns agreement was not reached. In propositions and reports submitted to the Storting where the Government holds a different standpoint than the Sami Parliament, the assessments and standpoints of the Sami Parliament shall be stated.

7. Minutes
Minutes shall be kept of all consultation meetings between Central Government authorities and the Sami Parliament. The minutes shall include a brief account of the case, the assessments and standpoints of the parties and the conclusion.

8. The need for studies/knowledge base
Ministry of Local Government and Regional Development and the Sami Parliament shall jointly appoint a specialist analysis group which, inter alia on the basis of Sami statistics, shall submit an annual report concerning the situation and developmental trends of the Sami community. The report shall be used as the basis for consultations on specific matters and for consultations concerning the developmental needs of the Sami community at one of the half-yearly meetings between the Minister responsible for for Sami matters and the President of the Sami Parliament.
When Central Government authorities or the Sami Parliament consider there to be a need for studies to strengthen the factual basis or the formal basis for assessments and decisions, this shall be made known as early as possible and the parties shall include the issues associated with the terms of reference for any such studies in the consultation process. The Central Government and the Sami Parliament shall seek to reach agreement both on the terms of reference and on who shall carry out such a study. The Central Government and the Sami Parliament are obliged to assist in providing information and materials necessary for carrying out the study.

9. Consultations with other affected Sami interests
In matters where the Central Government plans to consult local Sami communities and/or specific Sami interests that may be directly affected by legislation or measures, the Central Government shall as early as possible notify what interests or organizations the Central Government regards as affected by the matter and discuss the coordination of the consultation processes with the Sami Parliament.