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Really awful story, but at this age and with 2 children, she should have known it better. Without doubt its very bad to allow to abort healthy European children, especially in such a late stadium and if thinking that the mother already invested most of the necessary energy in the child and so many people want to adopt healthy European children, so she wouldnt have suffered too much by giving a third baby life, she wouldnt even have to care afterwards...
Such women are just stupid, other people would raise their blood for nothing but getting a child, and they already invested so much energy in the child by themselves physically and suddenly want to abort a healthy child of their own.

If the story is true in every detail or not, its a good example for women which think to late...if she would have been 15 and wouldnt have had any experiences, ok, but as experienced mother in her age...

I'm not that knowledgeable about such procedures, but chances to save the child in a good condition would have been rather bad I'd guess...didnt even know thats allowed in US, that late and without medical indication.
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This is horrible in my mind. I just can't stand it when children are in pain let alone someone arbitrarily rubbing their life out. Population control has just got to evolve beyone this.
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Perhaps if this woman's mother had been allowed an abortion,
she wouldn't give birth to such a cretin.

If there's no stopping them, late abortions should be carried-out with a gun.
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As I read that I felt really bitter. Disgusting story. They all deserve to burn in hell
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It´s even unbeliefable that someone writes such kind of stories...

...sometimes we shall think about life...
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I'm not that knowledgeable about such procedures, but chances to save the child in a good condition would have been rather bad I'd guess...didnt even know thats allowed in US, that late and without medical indication.
That's how it works with this scum. First they introduce rhetorics such as life at early stages is not considered human life, how having a child at an early age can make psychological damage to the woman (solution: kill the new life while he/she is defenseless), the so called right/freedom of choice (right/freedom to assassinate), ... and as people get used to such brutalities as part of their everyday life, the viciousness in their hideous crimes go slowly (but unstoppably) in increase.

These strategies do not stop at abortion, but they are a trend in many other issues that the liberals and social-communists are introducing in societies.

If this is the world that we are creating, we deserve to vanish from the face of earth and leave the more humane, so-called irrational beasts to rule the earth.
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Since abortion, death penalty and other forms of crime are becoming legal and perfectly ok, why don't they legalize crime as a whole they're at it?
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Since abortion, death penalty and other forms of crime are becoming legal and perfectly ok, why don't they legalize crime as a whole they're at it?

Entirely logical. It would also cause crime statistics to evaporate. Good news for any government, surely.
Even better, why not outlaw morality and common decency while we are at it as well. Then we can get rid of bothersome feelings of guilt.

What struck me in that story was not the fact that the abortion workers didn't bother their arse to help the woman of her child - afterall they are in the business of death, not saving life - but rather the description of lack of attention, blood on the walls, being left to bleed alone, etc.
Looks like we've came leaps and bounds since women supposedly had it done in a dirty back alley with a coat-hanger.

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With abortion, the mother basically gets the right of life and death over her child. If this is the right thing to do, why would killing her child at a later age be considered a crime and receive punishment? Society is full of double standards.
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Since abortion, death penalty and other forms of crime are becoming legal and perfectly ok, why don't they legalize crime as a whole they're at it?
It probably will be legalized, for everyone except native Europeans.

In an article I've recently read, a gay man who got beaten up in Holland,
by Moroccans, accused the "racism in the Dutch society" on the violence
committed upon him.

He basically blames the native Dutch people on the homophobia of Morrocan immigrants.

Basically, the only 'normal' figure in this story are the Moroccans
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With abortion, the mother basically gets the right of life and death over her child. If this is the right thing to do, why would killing her child at a later age be considered a crime and receive punishment? Society is full of double standards.
Since the personality evolves in humans which are more nidicolous than nidifugous and the time after the birth is still an ungoing development which would happen praenatal if the child (especially head) dimensions wouldnt be too great the difference is not too big between killing 2 month before and directly after birth, thats true.
Latest with 3-5 years the child develops an independent personality, not just relying on instincts and early basic learning, then its a real individual (mental healthy children of course). From a biological perspective we should never forget how much care a female needs until she was grown up. From then, if healthy and fertile, she could have given to up to ~ children birth and a certain percentage wouldnt have survived at all - so the woman is usually much higher in value for the group than a child.

If its arguable to say in the early stage abortion is no such problem, than you could argue so because the woman didnt invest too much at this point, but at the 5 month +, the investment is already high and she must give birth this or that way, since the child doesnt just disappear if killed. In fact our society is very generous to raise children of such people, but they are too stupid to see the advantage oftentimes. Thats ethologically not that false, since in earlier times a "useless child" (bastard, rape, defected, man left, etc., most common reason in H-G societies was low ressources or not enough time between children) could be a serious burden, but now its possible to give the child to the state or in another family to raise it.
One problem is, that in our society adoption is as, or even less accepted than abortion, since many people say, "what do you do to the life of the child, its better never born", but thats just plain stupid either, since many children had a much worse life in the past and produced whole populations and had finally a decent life.
Thats in my opinion the basic problem, its better esteemed to abort (or contraception) than giving the child free to adoption for many people, since the individual you leave or can't give a "decent life" never comes into existence.

Its a good example for instinctive, affective behaviour of humans which is still stamped by the distant past, since the conditions changed, and a woman doesnt even have to raise her blood on her own. In the past under conditions I mentioned, she wouldnt have brought it through anyway or didnt wanted to lose the better chance, so infanticid (before and after birth) happened quite often to make it fast...
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