How many children do you have/do you think you will have?

[Heretik]

I decided to procreate until I have enough children to start my own, private army and rule the planet!

[BeornWulfWer]

Originally Posted by Plethon

And I noticed something quite indicative for the whole issue of family. People having families tend to be inclined more to nationalist (or at least patriotic) attitudes, while singles tend not to care about anything concerning preservation of the nation. Many of them live only for the present... "Why would I give a damn? I want only to have fun in life..." Just job and entertainment. And you cannot "have fun" all life. In the beginning of thirties many become lonely freaks or drug addicts. If you have society populated by such individuals, it's not healthy at all.

I'll agree wholeheartedly with you there.
I too have felt this pattern amongst the family orientated and those of the "single life".

It amy seem petty,but I currently write "celt gelt" on all new twenty pound English notes,showing my disgust at having a Scotsman on an English note.
Like i said,it may seem petty to some on this forum,but that is me.

Anyway,the singles in my friend group are of the mindset to ridicule me and say im just petty and fighting a losing battle.
The married or "family" orientated members of my group are full on backing the idea and have now joined in the cause.

I think the introduction of children and loving partners, instills a sense of preservation and protection within you that cannot be measured by any scale.
It is through this that the Nationalist movement grows.

[Monolith]

I plan on having three or four kids.
It's dull to have only one, because then you miss all the fun.

[Erik P]

Personally, I think three would be ideal for me and my fiancée. Sometimes I feel, though, that we should get 5-10 children just to secure a future for our people.. :-P

[Phlegethon]

Originally Posted by Plethon

And I noticed something quite indicative for the whole issue of family. People having families tend to be inclined more to nationalist (or at least patriotic) attitudes, while singles tend not to care about anything concerning preservation of the nation.

Strange, I have noticed the exact opposite. Those involved actively are all without exception single without children. Those who are married with children automatically fall prey to reinfantilization and are more focused on family trips to Eurodisney than anything substantial.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

Strange, I have noticed the exact opposite. Those involved actively are all without exception single without children. Those who are married with children automatically fall prey to reinfantilization and are more focused on family trips to Eurodisney than anything substantial.

You are right, of course. Even the most staunch activists stop most involvement after having several children. The very few who I know and who have continued through decades, have only one child.

Perhaps one reason is that in the political parties there is a failure to create a real sense of community beyond the strictly party activities. Not that there is the only failure. And not that this is the only reason.

[Carnyx]

It seems to start even before that: from the conception, when they get engaged.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

Strange, I have noticed the exact opposite. Those involved actively are all without exception single without children. Those who are married with children automatically fall prey to reinfantilization and are more focused on family trips to Eurodisney than anything substantial.

I wasn't talking about nationalist activists, but about the observed trends of thinking and perceiving the world in the general population, namely, that those with families tend to have more nationalistic general attitudes.

As regards activists, well, there can be some of them who choose a life-style without family, out of dedication for the cause, in order not to be distracted by family concerns. Although I think it's best for every man and woman to marry, I respect also this choice of celibacy for some higher goal, what is akin to the celibacy in the Catholic Church (I support the priestly celibacy). But it will always be matter of few outstanding individuals in every community/society, while it is the best for the great majority of people to marry.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

You are right, of course. Even the most staunch activists stop most involvement after having several children. The very few who I know and who have continued through decades, have only one child.

Perhaps one reason is that in the political parties there is a failure to create a real sense of community beyond the strictly party activities. Not that there is the only failure. And not that this is the only reason.

Yes, the sense of community is lacking in all countries. Possibly one of the reasons for such failures.

Community vs. society? I tend to believe that the former is better from the standpoint of the national preservation.

A sense of community should be renewed. Nation as community of destiny.

Ferdinand von Tönnies: Gesellschaft und Gemeinschaft (sorry, I didn't find it in English).

Tönnies - Gemeinschaft

[BeornWulfWer]

Those were just my observations.
As always in life,the next man-or woman-will always have a different view or opinion of the same experience.

[Engelbrecht]

Originally Posted by Engelbrecht

I have two children - a six year old boy and a four year old daughter.

I want to have one more child, but my wife do not agree. After all, it is her decition.

I´m glad to announce that my wife have changed her mind, and we are at this moment planning for our third child.

[oubiña]

That would be 5 or 6.. Then me and my wife would have to call nanny911 or supernanny to solve all our problems.

Well, just kidding. I don't really know and I respectfully didn't vote

[Heretik]

Originally Posted by Engelbrecht

I´m glad to announce that my wife have changed her mind, and we are at this moment planning for our third child.

Smart woman!

[Engelbrecht]

Originally Posted by Heretik

Smart woman!

She can´t resist me. And also I explained to her that it´s a crime against humanity not to put forward her extraordinary genes.

The last sentense was said with a bit of irony. But to be serious, we must do what we can to secure the future of the ethnical Swedes(or whatever other European country you other members come from).

We have a demographic catastrophy coming to Europe, and that is sooner than we might think.

I read an articel in a swedish newspaper the other day. In Russia they have announced a "family holiday". The concept is one day off from work in order to promote the birthrate. This holiday occurs 9 months before Russias national day, and if your child is born on this special day you will recieve an award.

My hat off for the russians!

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Engelbrecht

I read an articel in a swedish newspaper the other day. In Russia they have announced a "family holiday". The concept is one day off from work in order to promote the birthrate. This holiday occurs 9 months before Russias national day, and if your child is born on this special day you will recieve an award.

My hat off for the russians!

Yes, I have heard about this as well. And four to five times more babies were born on 2007 Russia's national day (than in 2006). Quite impressive.