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A 'BABY BJORN' SPERM CRISIS

SHORTAGE HITS WANNABE PARENTS


A REAL SWEDEY: The city's top sperm bank's popular Nordic stock is low thanks to a federal ban.

By JANON FISHER

New Yorkers looking for a bouncy, blond, blue-eyed baby are in a panic as the city's largest sperm bank - and the only one with imported goods - is running dry.
Cryos International, based in the Financial District, has gone to seed because the Food and Drug Administration banned sperm samples from 30 countries to prevent the spread of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a rare, fatal disorder caused by eating beef contaminated with mad-cow disease.
Two years after the measure, Cryos has run out of offerings from such prized blond Norsemen as "Oluf," "Dagh," "Finn," "Ingi," "Jorn" and "Ante."
If matters aren't resolved soon, say goodbye to "Jarls," "Sven," "Gorm" and "Leif," as well.

One Upper West Side couple, who has a daughter by the Danish donor "Dane" and is looking to have another, was shocked by the ban.
The parents, both 41, purchased Dane's donation before it ran out. They have enough left to try another artificial insemination, but if that doesn't work they won't be able to give their 8-month-old daughter a full sibling. "It's really stunning because I did want the same father for my daughter," said the mother, whose husband was left sterile by a childhood disease.
The couple chose Cryos because they wanted a child who resembled them.
"Dare we hope that here is some sort of magical Scandinavian sperm bank? We looked on the Internet and found out about this clinic," she said.
Sperm-bank manager Claus Rodgaard said most of the Northern European donor supplies will be gone by next year. "We have a waiting list of 15 to 20 couples," he said.

Couples who once hoped to purchase samples from square-jawed, strapping Norsemen living in Lillehammer will have to settle for locksmiths, bartenders and struggling writers from less exotic locales, such as Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, Rego Park, Queens, and Hackensack, N.J.

Clinics that get their donations from locals are not affected by the guidelines. But Americans are barred from donating if they have lived in the U.K. for more than three months between 1986 and 1996, or in Europe for more than five years since 1980.
Cryos - which sells about 1,000 samples per month for between $175 and $300 each - is now scrambling to fill its freezer with the seed of local guys who get paid $75 per sample. The most prolific donors supply samples twice a week.
"Our problem is that we can't get enough sperm," Rodgaard said. "And the quality of sperm is not getting any better. Seventy-five percent of the donors are turned down."
There are only six sperm banks in New York City.
The bank puts samples through a battery of tests that screen for HIV, sexually transmitted diseases, hepatitis B and C and other disorders.
Couples looking for a donor further narrow the pool of donors with their own preferences. "Guys with red hair don't sell well in Denmark," he said. "I'm sure if we have a donor that is 8 feet tall, that might not be that popular."
Still, the mad-cow precaution is unnecessary, according to one scientific study, which says the risk of getting the human form of the disease from sperm is the same as getting killed by lightning.

Couples seeking imported sperm should be educated rather than being left childless because "of what is clearly a negligible risk of contracting" Creutzfeldt-Jakob, Dr. David Mortimer writes in an article in the October 2006 issue of Reproductive BioMedicine.
The FDA did not comment on the study, but cited the conclusions of a 2001 committee finding that mad cow could be passed through sperm.
"I'd rather take the chance and end up with another perfect child," the Manhattan mother said.
A \'BABY BJORN\' SPERM CRISIS | By JANON FISHER | New York News | New York City News | NY News
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Surreal article although it looks more strange with the thread title.
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This article comes across as a bunch of Nordicised superiority crap. I can understand why many people would want blonde hair/blue eye genes for their offspring but the article implies that all the successful people in life are scandanavian and everyone else useless/always poor.
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This article comes across as a bunch of Nordicised superiority crap. I can understand why many people would want blonde hair/blue eye genes for their offspring but the article implies that all the successful people in life are scandanavian and everyone else useless/always poor.
The article doesn't say that at all. Did you read it through, for God's sake?
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I would hate the idea of a son or daughter of mine raised by some creepy New York "Upper West Side couple".

By the way, "Upper West Side" is New York code for "rich Jews".
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The article doesn't say that at all. Did you read it through, for God's sake?
I know it doesn't specifically say that, that's why I said it "comes across as". Did YOU read my post?
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I would hate the idea of a son or daughter of mine raised by some creepy New York "Upper West Side couple".

By the way, "Upper West Side" is New York code for "rich Jews".
Sorry but having lived in NYC, I have to state that Upper East-side as well as Upper-West side are code for WASP, people of protestant English background. Upper-East is more of old money and Upper-West more of newly rich. Names such as Williamsburgh, Brooklyn, Flatbush Brooklyn are codes for jews.

I'd have died of happiness if having raised in Upper West-side, together with Upper-East side the best places one can possibly live with their apartments there are starting from 5 million$.

I love America's infatuation with blond, blue-eyed Nords.
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It's interesting you've lived in NYC. Have you been to other places in the U.S? If so, how would you compare it to living in NYC?

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Sorry but having lived in NYC, I have to state that Upper East-side as well as Upper-West side are code for WASP, people of protestant English background. Upper-East is more of old money and Upper-West more of newly rich. Names such as Williamsburgh, Brooklyn, Flatbush Brooklyn are codes for jews.

I'd have died of happiness if having raised in Upper West-side, together with Upper-East side the best places one can possibly live with their apartments there are starting from 5 million$.
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Sorry but having lived in NYC, I have to state that Upper East-side as well as Upper-West side are code for WASP, people of protestant English background. Upper-East is more of old money and Upper-West more of newly rich. Names such as Williamsburgh, Brooklyn, Flatbush Brooklyn are codes for jews.
Those neighbourhoods would make people think of Hassidic Jews.

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The Upper West Side is also a largely Jewish neighborhood, populated with both well-to-do German Jews who moved in at the turn of the century, and Jewish refugees escaping Hitler's Europe in the 1930's.
Upper West Side - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The Upper West Side has often been perceived as a heavily Jewish neighborhood, but despite this reputation the influx of southern blacks, Russians, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Haitians, and Ukranians in the forties and fifties, and Cubans, Dominicans, and Puerto Ricans in the fifties and sixties has kept the area diverse and demographically unpredictable. Partially because of this diversity, the Upper West Side has retained a liberal constituency and a bohemian attitude.
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Still seen as more intellectual and less wealthy than its blue-blood East Side brother, the Upper West Side is, however, once again experiencing an innundation of young affluent thirtysomethings, as the available apartments in New York disappear faster than they appear on the market. Gentrification has wiped out many of the small businesses that once made the upper West Side distinctive, but holdouts remain, and you can still find everything from good bagel shops to great bookstores.
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This is the most relevant. This profile of the cool rabbi gives an idea of the Upper West Side scene:

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He rarely went to synagogue, but he chose to live on the Upper West Side because it was a neighborhood with many Jewish institutions and shops. “I orchestrated it so that Judaism was always on the periphery of my rebellion,” said Rabbi Ingber, who supported himself by working at nonkosher restaurants like EJ’s Luncheonette and Carmine’s.


In his quest to re-establish his connection to Judaism, he went back to Israel and continued a secular life in Tel Aviv, where he taught Pilates and astrology. In 2002, he was finally ready to reconcile with Judaism and become a rabbi.
As Always, Mother Knows Best - New York Times

As well:

New York City NYC Synagogue walk Upper West Side UWS Manhattan Boston Walks The Jewish Friendship Trail by Michael Alan Ross 2007

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I'd have died of happiness if having raised in Upper West-side, together with Upper-East side the best places one can possibly live with their apartments there are starting from 5 million$.
I guess we have different priorities. I would hate the idea of one of my children raised in one of those families, Jewish or Gentile.
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I love America's infatuation with blond, blue-eyed Nords.

this is a specific case. But being a current resident of America, I can tell you the women here are more interested on other types of men and the same can be said for the guys a lot of time. I would say the most popular look is the alpine one, with med behind. depends on the area of the country too.
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I love America's infatuation with blond, blue-eyed Nords.

this is a specific case. But being a current resident of America, I can tell you the women here are more interested on other types of men and the same can be said for the guys a lot of time. I would say the most popular look is the alpine one, with med behind. depends on the area of the country too.
The obsession with blue-eyed blonds is largely a Jewish New York and Hollywood phenomenon but, like the Hollywood Nazi fetish, it has been picked up and amplified by WN morons. Here's a quote from an Israeli article on the Jewish American Princess, or JAP type:

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The JAP's ultimate dream, she says, is to look like a WASP: blonde, thin, blue-eyed - "to be Grace Kelly and not Golda Meir." Therefore, the JAP must work hard on her appearance. It's a never-ending, frustrating struggle: Not only will she spend hours at the beauty parlor and on manicures and pedicures, she'll also be a frequent client of plastic surgeons, for nose jobs, breast implants and Botox treatments.
Jewish, yes. American, yes. But am I a princess? - Haaretz - Israel News
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