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Spain has highest divorce rate in Europe: study

24 May 2007

MADRID - The number of divorces in Spain increased by 51 percent in 2006 relative to the previous year, which translates into an EU-leading rate of 3.16 divorces per every 1,000 inhabitants, according to the Institute for Family Policy.

Marital dissolutions in Spain rose steadily over a five-year period and have skyrocketed since the Socialists regained power in 2004. From 37,586 cases in 2001, the number of divorces rose to 42,017 in 2002, 47,319 in 2003, 52,591 in 2004, 93,536 in 2005 and 141,817 last year.

The number of cases of divorce plus separations also rose in 2006, climbing to 155,000 cases compared with 149,000 the previous year.

According to IPF President Eduardo Hertfelder, these figures "represent an unprecedented acceleration in the breakdown of the family."

The official said the sharp rise in divorce figures is the result of the so-called "express divorce" law passed in 2005, adding that "urgent measures must be taken to stop this veritable social suicide."

"A true change in course is needed as far as legal measures (and) social and cultural protection of marriage and the family to rectify this tremendous crisis we're experiencing in Spain," Hertfelder said.

Efforts by the administration of Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero - inaugurated in 2004 - to ease restrictions on divorce, legalize gay marriage and allow same-sex couples to adopt children have been harshly criticized by the Catholic Church, which has said Spanish society is being tempted by proposals for radical secular lifestyles.

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Absolutely tragic

What we are witnessing here is a slow auto-genocide.
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It´s very sad but the divorce express law has its effects and we are picking up them.
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I don't know why but I thought it'd be Great Britain that had the highest rate of divorce. Everyone here seems to come from a family where throughout the working week they live with one parent and their new spouse, and see the other parent and their new spouse on weekends. A lot of the time siblings are forced to spend time with either parent while their brother or sister are with the other. It can't be good, not being able to socialise with your siblings. People seem to be marrying alot younger these days as well, or getting married because their expecting, and then realising after a few months that they don't really like eachother and splitting up, leaving the child with weekend/weekday parents.

/rant over. Maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned...
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I don't know why but I thought it'd be Great Britain that had the highest rate of divorce. Everyone here seems to come from a family where throughout the working week they live with one parent and their new spouse, and see the other parent and their new spouse on weekends. A lot of the time siblings are forced to spend time with either parent while their brother or sister are with the other.
Yes, people who live with both parents are becoming something of a novelty here now.

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It can't be good, not being able to socialise with your siblings. People seem to be marrying alot younger these days as well, or getting married because their expecting, and then realising after a few months that they don't really like eachother and splitting up, leaving the child with weekend/weekday parents



/rant over. Maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned...
They still actually get married where you are?
Then yes, you lot are very old fashioned indeed
Generally people here now wait a lot longer to get married, or often enough don't even bother marrying at all. Divorces are expensive, after all.

With that sort of confidence in a relationship, how could it not work!
Talk about pessimistic!
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The statistics for most countries show 2/3 to 3/4 of divorces are initiated by the woman. Another study I read the other day showed men were more likely to be clinically depressed after a divorce. The boom in divorce is largely female driven.
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Very sad indeed.
51%? one percent ahead of the US.
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The statistics for most countries show 2/3 to 3/4 of divorces are initiated by the woman. Another study I read the other day showed men were more likely to be clinically depressed after a divorce. The boom in divorce is largely female driven.
Yes, indeed. I think it is linked to the loss of male authority and the general feminization of Western society. The damage of feminism, probably.
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It is so sad.

The situation in Norway is not any better, 2/3 of all marriages are dissolved within 2 years...

The genderroles are very confused here, females claim the advantages of being females, and also the advantages men have by being men. No limits.

I think it is mainly to thank confused femistst for, that often imagines that "freedom" is behaving like a female dog. Also norwegian "men" are faaaar too much controlled by their females, and shows little backbone or balls, but wages their tails as their bitches command, it simply must come wrong off.

I am not quite sure I even would have a Norwegian female, as anything else than a toy or a slave. (slaves calls for discipline, and that may be an useful setting) I would not say they have low morals or lack of sane values, but they seems rather amoral, like animals to me, and they often responds to no calculable standards of morals either.

On the other hand, they are very easy available for "hump`em and dump `em " adventures, and that is really not my cup of coffee. Their much too often "easy" behavior, has turned into a serious society problem, breeding new problems...I am sorry for Norwegian females general lack of dignity.

Have you ever heard of Norwegian females on holiday in Turkey? Well, they have a reputation as no charge whores, a description that hits them with a spitting presiction.

The next generations of Norwegian females may hopefully be more sane and balanced, it cant be worse than this. I do not expect females to become more rational than one can expect, but some moral standards should be expected anyway? The morals have been free falling here for some time.

A terrible example, not recommendable to follow.


Yes, yes, I know it is subjective and unfair to write such upon Norwegian females...But I think I can live with that.


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It's not uncommon here either. It's unfortunate, during my childhood my parents divorced, it financially ruins a lot.
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In nordic countries for solutioning the problem, there aren´t marriages.
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That produces less divorces, yes, but it does only "cures" some of the symptoms, not the reasons.

Anyway, in spite of my harsh critics of Norwegian females above, I love them, and care for them, but generally they needs strongly to correct their bearing. Loyalty to own culture are unfortunately extremely rare among them, and that is something I have issues with forgiving.

But trying to help them to a healthier understanding of genderroles, it is like saving a panicked person from drowning. They insists to " be in charge" no matter how confused they are. But I love them anyway, as an annoyed animal trainer, or like a worried gardener, watching the weed take over for the roses and the lillys


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Family is the basic unit for a nation. Destroy the family and the nation will crumble.

I suspect that the reason why Spain has the higher rates of divorces is that we have one the highest rates of marriages. That doesn't mean that Spain has the highest rates of broken families. Getting formally married is still in use in Spain. In other countries it is more usual to get together without the formalities of marriage (be it civil or religious), and divorces are not computed the same as all it takes to divorce is to pack your belongings and move to the next.

This doesn't make it any worse or any better. I wonder about the ethical implications of breaking the bond of marriage in the modern society. In the old and better days, man acquired a free will compromise to protect and to provide for his wife to be and for the future fruits of the matrimony. Likewise, woman acquired the free will compromise to respect and to care for her husband to be and to give him children.

In modern society this is superfluous because this compromise is not realistic and therefore the bond that united both is weakened. Love? That's hardly the bond in matrimony, but a consequence of it. The initial attraction that we confuse with love always fades, and true love is what grows inside the matrimony over the years.
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That produces less divorces, yes, but it does only "cures" some of the symptoms, not the reasons.

Anyway, in spite of my harsh critics of Norwegian females above, I love them, and care for them, but generally they needs strongly to correct their bearing. Loyalty to own culture are unfortunately extremely rare among them, and that is something I have issues with forgiving.

But trying to help them to a healthier understanding of genderroles, it is like saving a panicked person from drowning. They insists to " be in charge" no matter how confused they are. But I love them anyway, as an annoyed animal trainer, or like a worried gardener, watching the weed take over for the roses and the lillys


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