Britain and its "sex education"

[Susi]

That's not nice Phlegethon!

[Albionforever]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

Island apes. 'nuff said.

So white European people of Anglo Saxon, Nordic and Celtic descent are 'Island apes' according to you the 'expert'? What do you know about my country?? And if you hate us so much why are you copying British slang? ('nuff said' is British slang)

I like Germany, I see Germany as being equal to Britain and our histories are similiar, our folklores are similar and our countryside is similar. I know 'Island apes' was an ill educated and rather moronic insult against the British during the second world war but I can understand that because Britain declared war against Germany. This was wrong and a lot of British were against the war at the time which Germans are never taught about at school.

So let me educate you on Britain as you quite clearly know nothing about the British or Britain:

Do you know that England was envaded and settled by Anglo Saxons and Vikings for over 600 hundred centuries and that the population of Britons was less than 50'000 at the time of the first invasions? Genetic testing of the English shows that pure bred English are genetically no different than Germans or Scandanavians.

Do you know that archaeologists come from all over the world to see Anglo Saxon, Nordic and celtic archaeology that Britain is rich with and the largest Anglo Saxon burial site is in fact in England at Sutton Hoo?

Suttonhoo

Do you know that Britain's national parks and areas of natural beauty are the most visited in Europe and second most in the world??

Do you know that if the British hadn't of invented the Industrial revolution and shared it with Germany and other European countries you would all still be in the dark ages? The Industrial Revolution is the largest invention in the world, there has been nothing since that has changed the world in the same degree as the Industrial Revolution.

Britain (closely followed by Germany, Austria, France and some areas of Scandanavia) led for centuries in the fields of Science, Medicine, technology, Literature (JJR Tolkien, William Shakespeare et al) , etc., etc.

Britain or to give it it's ancient name Albion is the home of King Arthur, Boudicca/Boadicea, Richard The LionHeart & the Crusades (Third Crusade), Robin Hood etc., etc., etc. Britain is a rich country of legend, myth and folklore.

British people who you refer to as 'Island Apes':











Perhaps rather than hating on white people and talking BS about other people's countries you should be concentrating on the Turks and muds that are pouring into your country? I know I am.

[Susi]

But you can still argue that the cultures of Germany and England are distinctly different.

I was wondering about how you use the terms "English" and "British" interchangably... Are you for the union of all the countries or for the separation?

[Albionforever]

Originally Posted by Susi

But you can still argue that the cultures of Germany and England are distinctly different.

I never said they weren't different?

Originally Posted by Susi

I was wondering about how you use the terms "English" and "British" interchangably... Are you for the union of all the countries or for the separation?

I'm proud to be both English and British so sometimes I do use them interchangably. 'British' refers to all of Britain, Scotland, England, Wales etc. 'British' does not mean just English which a lot of non Brits think it does. I've never really understood why because it was actually Scotland that gave birth to Britain or the union when King James I sat on the English throne.
I would like it if Britain stays together but if Scotland and Wales want independance then that's what they want. There's no point keeping together if the Scots and Welsh don't want to. At least then the English tax payers wouldn't have to pay for Scotland's and Wales' healthcare, education etc.
Besides, we'll only end up with non-Brits saying how the 'evil English' are forcing the Scots to stay in the union they created.

[Phlegethon]

Originally Posted by Albionforever

British people who you refer to as 'Island Apes':

Is that Katie Price (Jordan)? She is clearly an island ape par excellence.
And I also noticed you did not post pics of Rowan Atkinson, Victoria Beckham and Samantha Fox - so your gallery is kinda selective.
But don't worry, the terms "island apes", "perfidious Albion", "British cant" and "merchant souls" will never go away. They are special terms of endearment for representatives of a people whp played a predominantly negative role in Eurpean history.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Albionforever

I never said they weren't different?

Your premise was that they were incredibly similar.

I'm proud to be both English and British so sometimes I do use them interchangably. 'British' refers to all of Britain, Scotland, England, Wales etc. 'British' does not mean just English which a lot of non Brits think it does. I've never really understood why because it was actually Scotland that gave birth to Britain or the union when King James I sat on the English throne.

So in which case you just call the rest of your heritage "British" instead of "Welsh", "Scottish", or "Irish"...

What I meant is YOUR opinion. Do you think that the "British" countries should remain united or should they be separated?

I have nothing against the English, being mostly English myself. And I wonder who asked James I, distant cousin of the English monarch, to be king?

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Oh Phlegethon, you amuse me you silly Kraut.

[Phlegethon]

Originally Posted by Susi

Oh Phlegethon, you amuse me you silly Kraut.

I am not an amuser but an abuser.

[Phlegethon]

Originally Posted by Susi

That's not nice Phlegethon!

I have a reputation of not playing nice.

[Marcus Marulus]

Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England

By NANCY ZUCKERBROD, Associated Press Writer Nancy Zuckerbrod, Associated Press Writer – Thu Oct 23, 4:45 pm ET


School children stand outside Windsor Castle in 2006. Millions of children in England aged from five to 16 in state-funded schools will receive compulsory lessons about subjects including sex and drug use.(AFP/File/Adrian Dennis)

LONDON – It's a controversial idea in a land known for prudishness about sex — teaching kids as young as 5 about the birds and bees.
But with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, the British government is bringing sex education to all schools in England — including kindergarten-age children.

While countries like France, Holland and China already require sex education, few places demand that it be introduced at such a young age.
"It's vital that this information doesn't come from playground rumor or the mixed messages from the media about sex," Schools Minister Jim Knight said Thursday, announcing that sex ed would be added to the national curriculum.

English schools now are required to teach basic lessons on reproduction as part of the science curriculum. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have separate education departments and standards. Only Scotland makes sex education voluntary.

The government hasn't detailed what the new curriculum will look like, but schools will be asked to provide lessons on relationships and contraception, topics not previously required. Lessons will become more sophisticated as kids get older.

Elementary schools can offer lessons in naming body parts, preparing for puberty and relationship feelings, Knight said.

For the very young, sex ed will mainly be about self-awareness, he said.
"We are not talking about 5-year-old kids being taught sex," he said.

"What we're talking about for key stage 1 (ages 5-7) is children knowing about themselves, their differences, their friendships and how to manage their feelings."

But not everyone feels the state should decide when and how to broach the topic.

"I am not the parent who calls her son's penis a wee-wee. But I should decide if the word penis enters my child's vocabulary at 5 or not," said Elizabeth Talbot of London, who has two sons, aged 4 and 6 months old.
The government said children over 11 — the age at which kids generally go to secondary school in England — could learn how to develop respectful relationships and how risky sexual behavior contributes to the spread of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancies.

Britain has among the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, with government figures showing that about 39,000 girls under age 18 became pregnant in 2006, the year for which the most recent figures are available. More than 7,000 of those girls were younger than 16.

Yet the country has long been considered more prudish and reserved than its continental neighbors.

"Everybody has sex at some point or other in their lives ... (but) we're not willing to prepare them," said Gill Frances, who served as part of a group that advised lawmakers on the new sex ed policy.

French students get sex ed in middle and high schools. Norwegian students typically get mandatory sex education around age 15. The topic is not mandatory but left up to principals and teachers in Italy.

In Finland, at age 11 or 12 children in school are taught about reproduction but sexual health and human relations begins between age 14 or 15. The Finish children's watchdog, the Mannerheim League for Child Welfare, last month proposed distributing free condoms to ninth graders (16 year olds) in schools to the stop spread of sexually transmitted diseases; education authorities rejected it.


In the United States, which lacks a national curriculum, the decision to offer sex education is left to individual states and districts. In recent years, the federal government has funded programs promoting sexual abstinence. The abstinence programs are favored by religious conservatives.

The topic has even made it into the presidential election campaign.
John McCain accused Barack Obama of being bad for families, saying he supports sex education for kindergartners. The legislation that Obama supported in the Illinois Senate would have required information deemed age appropriate, and Obama has said that meant warning young children about sexual predators.

In China, students generally begin sex education in middle school, but the curriculum is basic. In India, where more than 2.5 million people are infected with the AIDS virus, basic sex education has been offered in schools since the late 1980's. However, six of India's largest states banned the basic programs, saying they would corrupt the young.
Peru is implementing a pilot program this year in 146 schools that begins lessons on sexual reproduction at age 11 and on birth control at 14. It will be adopted nationwide next year.

"Statutory (sex ed) is absolutely crucial in reducing teenage pregnancy, particularly for vulnerable young people, but all children and young people need equipping with the skills and knowledge to help manage their lives," said Frances, chairman of the Teenage Pregnancy Independent Advisory Group.

Supporters of the government's plan for England say they hope the lessons give kids information they need.

"When parents fail to educate their kids properly, the government has every right to step in," said Gayla Coil, a Londoner and mother to two kids ages 13 and 10. "Me, I welcome the help."

Knight said teachers would get training and that schools would "ensure there is flexibility for schools to tailor lessons to reflect the values and beliefs of the parents and communities they serve." Schools will be expected to implement the curriculum by 2010.

Teachers will likely have mixed feelings about the change, said Nansi Ellis, head of education policy for a teachers union.

"Some teachers will be uncomfortable with teaching this to very young children," she said. "But it's a really important part of children learning. Learning isn't just about academic achievements but the development of the whole person."

Associated Press writers Elle Moxley in London, Anita Chang in Beijing, Nathalie Gentaz in Paris, Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow, Victor Simpson in Rome, Doug Mellgren in Oslo, Norway, Matti Huuhtanen in Helsinki, Finland, Andrew Whalen in Lima, Peru, and Gavin Rabinowitz in New Dehli contributed to this report.
(This version CORRECTS totals on number of pregnant teens in Britain.)

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[BeornWulfWer]

Originally Posted by Marcus Marulus

I noticed you often refer to Albion as to "island apes." What does it mean?

Those who use it are usually bitter and twisted that they did not win the lottery of life and born a British citizen. Or better still; an Englishman.

Nowadays, it usually refers to the large swathes of English cities and their populace.

Originally Posted by Marcus Marulus

And what's your opinion on "sex education" at school in general?

It has always been nonsense.

I don't recall the lessons all that well, but can recollect the lesson being very boring for most of it due to lots of pictures and diagrams of male and female parts.
The only fun that was had was when we got to handle a condom, or wind up the teacher about what we thought the 'rhythm method' was.

Our year was very sexually active, but only one girl in the 4 years I was there, and the next 4 which I had kept in touch, ever got pregnant.

The message of using contraceptives got through to us all.

It seems that the lessons have got very 'spicy' since I left and the morals have dropped to the gutter to boot.

[Savorgnan]

Originally Posted by Susi

Well I think that it is important to tell teenagers that abstinence is the best choice

Please care to elaborate on your puritain view.

[Pro Hibernia]

Originally Posted by Marcus Marulus

And what's your opinion on "sex education" at school in general?

I think it's utter nonsense and BS.

I went to Catholic primary school and high school (secondry school) education, but it was actually quite well. Everything was explained clearly.

[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by Marcus Marulus

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The whole concept of "sex education in school" is one of the most poisonous products of the modern liberalism.

I agree completely.