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View Poll Results: Is violence in relationships acceptable?
Yes 5 10.64%
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What does everyone think about violence between men and women? Is it acceptable for a man to hit a woman? Is it acceptable the other way around? At any time? Can it be emotional as well as physical?

Please post your answer to the poll and why you picked this.

I said "no". Violence in a relationship is never acceptable, from either side.
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You sure know how to post a poll that you are going to win!

I should add that, in relationships, violence against women is nearly always physical whereas violence against men is nearly always psychological. Neither of those are acceptable.

The question, however, is why people who live constantly under the threat of violence (physical or psychological) from their sexual partner, last with them or in cases even return to them after succeeding to break up the relationship.
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The question, however, is why people who live constantly under the threat of violence (physical or psychological) from their sexual partner, last with them or in cases even return to them after succeeding to break up the relationship.
I agree, that's much more interesting question. And such situations are very commons.
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Dependence? (material, financial, physics, psychological) Weakness.
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This actually tallies with an article I posted about domestic violence yesterday - Money and politics corrupting domestic violence laws and enforcement - Irish Nationalism


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What does everyone think about violence between men and women? Is it acceptable for a man to hit a woman?
Certainly. In a case of self defense I would use any method necessary to ensure the safety of myself or loved ones.

But that is an extreme case. In terms of violence within a relationship of the normal sorts then I don't think it is ever acceptable.
And yes, I agree with Mynydd that women are capable of both psychological and physical abuse. It is silly to think that women are somehow incapable of aggression or cruelty. Any man in a relationship with one would laugh at the very suggestion
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I am really good at these poll things, eh Mynydd?

I would agree with Milesian on the female --> male abuse thing. I know this poor guy and this woman is being so mean to him-- she's pretty much abusing his emotions. I see so many women being so mean to men that I think it is more common for a woman to abuse a man than the other way around.

And in regards to the women not leaving a man who abuses her (or vice versa)... emotional attachment. There are good times as well as bad. She cannot bring herself to part with the man she's spent x years of her life with... maybe she just is confused and doesn't know what to do or will think all men are like this (or all women if it is a man), maybe she will think no man will want to date such a woman who is "Damaged goods". She could also think the man will take his revenge on her. I think the most thing would be the attachment/dependence. (sorry for rambling)
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I voted no... but, who knows
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I voted no... but, who knows
Then vote undecided, silly goose.
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He's not the only undecided vote.. I wonder what the motivations of Dunto are..
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Spanking is not only acceptable, but often required.
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I voted no. But the violence from both sides should be firmly condemned: both the physical violence of men against women and the very frequent psychological violence of women against men. (although there is, vice versa, male psychological violence on women, and sometimes even women beat men)
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I wonder what we can define physical violence as..

I mean a slap to the face in anger? A pinch? A punch? Who knows...
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I mean a slap to the face in anger?
A slap in the face out of LOVE is fine, no?
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A slap in the face out of LOVE is fine, no?
You mean LUST, surely
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