If you ruled...

[Cristoforo]

... what religion/s would you tolerate?

Please vote in the poll (which is public) and tell us the reasons for your vote

(you can vote for more than one religion)

(ps. i know atheism is not strictly a religion but I included it to know who many people would tolerate that since we have a couple of inquisitori here )

[Gil]

I voted Epicureanism which nevertheless is NOT a religion but rather a philosophy....
I also voted Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox, Paganism and Atheism because they are religions which fit into the European perspective and are inherently pro-european.

I also voted Buddhism because I would let Awar live in my Europa.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Manji

I also voted Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox, Paganism and Atheism because they are religions which fit into the European perspective and are inherently pro-european.

The same here, and also Protestant.

[etoile noir]

personally i would tolerate practically all religions, as long as they don't impose their creed on me or my country. which essentially means all except for islam.

i also have a rather strong aversion to judaism, so i left that out also.
cosmotheism, like pantheism, is rather oblique. it doesent bother me but i could never quite grasp the concept. and satanism could not exist without christianity, so that makes it a non starter. left those out also!

[Ederico]

I voted for what I believe is ideal for Malta. Ergo, only Roman Catholic. I voted with the assumption that we are talking about the public profession of Religion which affects Society. Therefore considering both questions, my vote is exclusive for Roman Catholicism.

The rest will be burned at the stake, Atheists in particular. j/k

[Rusalka]

The question is rather vague, if you ruled.. where exactly? I took it to be world domination (hehe) so I didn't exclude Judaism. I think it's fine Jews identify with a religion that creates a distinct identity for them, as long as they don't shove it down my throat. I excluded "other" Christian sects however, because I can't stand those like Evangelists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentecostals etc. although of course I wouldn't mind Anglicans and such. I can't stand Islam, sunni or shiite so, sorry, in my ideal world they're out. I think Cosmotheism is a big joke (like many of its kind), so they're out too. As for Wiccans they get on my nerves and Satanists are a bunch of losers who have had difficulty going past their teen angst.

[Phlegethon]

You have a very loose, propaganda-influenced definition of both Judaism and Christianity.

[Rusalka]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

You have a very loose, propaganda-influenced definition of both Judaism and Christianity.

It's my world domination but if I need any help I'll be sure to send for you.. from the dungeons.

Besides I did list Catholicism as tolerable, what's your problem?

[Phlegethon]

Heathen puppies from the fringes of Europe should go

[Menydh]

I voted for Catholic and Orthodox. I was about to vote for other Christian but then I realized that that would include Calvinists and Christian Identitarians. And, quite honestly I might have as well voted for Judaism if I voted for those too.

Cristoforo, it should have been more specific on Christian denominations.

I also voted for Buddhism as they don't seem to be proselitists and as an exotic touch. Nothing serious. And for Paganism since I consider it a fashion and little else. Not even self-alleged paganists consider it a proper religion. So it's better that they go into that than they turn into crime or else.

Of course that's all in general and outside Spain. In Spain I wouldn't be anything near to being so tolerant.

[Menydh]

And for those who voted Atheism, you are aware that the denial of a Creator implies the acceptance of man being just a slightly developed form of animal and a soulless creature?

If we are that insignificant, what's the point in moralizing and restraining from applying the most cruel forms of the survival of the fittest?

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I also voted for Buddhism as they don't seem to be proselitists and as an exotic touch. Nothing serious.

Well, in France there are about 2 million people who consider themselves as "close to Buddhism". Some Nationalist leaders think it is even more dangerous than Islam, since Islam is mostly a religion of non-Europeans (only 50,000 ethnic French are Muslims) while Buddhism in Europe is mostly a religion of Europeans. European cultural and spiritual alienation and Buddhist progression (a totally non-European religion) are linked; Buddhism is a weak religion, it works more or less against European resistance. I can't actually imagine a Buddhist fighting for his Nation (in Europe).
No, really, Buddhism would have no place in my ideal Nation.

[etoile noir]

Originally Posted by Der Elsasser

Well, in France there are about 2 million people who consider themselves as "close to Buddhism". Some Nationalist leaders think it is even more dangerous than Islam, since Islam is mostly a religion of non-Europeans (only 50,000 ethnic French are Muslims) while Buddhism in Europe is mostly a religion of Europeans. European cultural and spiritual alienation and Buddhist progression (a totally non-European religion) are linked; Buddhism is a weak religion, it works more or less against European resistance. I can't actually imagine a Buddhist fighting for his Nation (in Europe).
No, really, Buddhism would have no place in my ideal Nation.

granted, you have a point regarding buddhists not fighting for anything other than world peace .

however does that really differ greatly from christians who are trained from infancy to "turn the other cheek"?

islam on the other hand is an agressive creed that teaches its followers to actually wage war on infidels, i.e. you, me and anyone else who is not moslem. therefore i can't ever see buddhism ever being as dangerous as islam.

[Awar]

In my perfect state, I'd allow all religions, as long as they don't interfere with
laws and regulations of the government.

The official relation of the government with religion would be agnostic.

The only exceptions would be historical monuments like monasteries, churches, temples, mosques etc. which should be protected and restaurated from government funds.

Islam, Judaism, Christianity etc. I see no difference in the sense of them being active religions. Orthodox christianity is one of the most important factors in the history of my country, so it would naturally hold a special place, but it should never be allowed for the church to pursue political goals.

[Menydh]

Elsasser, I was unaware of that fact. If that's so, I retract from my vote to Buddhism.

Originally Posted by etoile noir

granted, you have a point regarding buddhists not fighting for anything other than world peace .

however does that really differ greatly from christians who are trained from infancy to "turn the other cheek"?

Not greatly apart from thousands of pages of history where Christianity has provided the ideology to fight, and the glue for nations in Europe to unite against a common enemy. Or where the Papacy called the nations of Europe to take up the arms and fight.

Basically, the entire history of Europe.

Just to put an example. Do you really believe that if Catholic Church had not existed in Europe, anything else would have attracted to men as far as Northern Germany, Spain or Italy, to defend Austria against the Ottomans?