If you ruled...

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

They worship Mickey Mouse, right?

Mickey Mouse, George Bush and the apple pie...

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Caesar Princeps

These religion should not be all allowed in Europe as a general, but allowed Nation for Nation according to Nation identity, then Orthodoxy for Greeks, Catholicism for Italians, Anglicanism for English, Lutheranism for Danes, Paganism for Saami, and so on... with possibly a general tolerance for (silent) Atheism and Agnosticism,

Really? You mentioned others.. what about Animism? for the Congolese of Europe? and Judaism? are Jews an European people?

That, not to mention Islam which should be banished from Europe at once.

Originally Posted by lasuurcnis

Well... about my opinion, I fully agree with Awars in this matter.

Being a Bosniak, why am I not surprised? You keep denying your Muslim identity, by the way?

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Protestants are They have connections with the anti-France.

I can't agree with you on this issue. My father and paternal grandfather are Lutheran and this does not prevent them from being French patriots.
We should make a difference between old and established Protestant communities (mostly the Lutherans in Alsace and Franche-Comté) and the newer Evangelic American-like proselytism. Actually there are not too many differences between "old" Protestants and Catholics in terms of mentality and culture.

[Aramis]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Being a Bosniak, why am I not surprised? You keep denying your Muslim identity, by the way?

I don't know why you'r not surprised, but denying? I never had one, so how could I deny it?

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Theobald

I can't agree with you on this issue. My father and paternal grandfather are Lutheran and this does not prevent them from being French patriots.

Sure, I've met a few decent Protestants and good nationalists.

And yet we have had our share of intriguing Protestant policitians actively working for the destruction of France.

We should make a difference between old and established Protestant communities (mostly the Lutherans in Alsace and Franche-Comté) and the newer Evangelic American-like proselytism. Actually there are not too many differences between "old" Protestants and Catholics in terms of mentality and culture.

Negro spiritual is becoming quite popular in Alsacian temples...

[Susi]

Not Wicca. No Wicca. Ever.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

And yet we have had our share of intriguing Protestant policitians actively working for the destruction of France.

... and Mitterand and Chirac came from a conservative Catholic background.
Of course - to quote Maurras - Catholicism is "intimately bound up with French history, it is the mortar which held the French Nation together" - but a French nationalist state should tolerate all kinds of "old" Christianity (Lutheranism, Orthodoxy).

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Negro spiritual is becoming quite popular in Alsacian temples...

Rather in new Evangelic communities. You can hardly see any young man or woman in Alsatian old temples and churches nowadays...
I remember one thing that happened when I was in Paris, some years ago. We were walking with my uncle to get at his car, when we saw a crowd of 200 or 300 Blacks going out of a little building. Not that it is surprising in Paris, but I was still wondering what they were doing as they were rather calm (well, calm in an African way...). Then I kept walking and once I got close enough to their building I could read "Centre Evangélique Philadelphia". The funny thing was these 3 or 4 blonde families amongst them.
Actually evangelism - at least as we are seeing it here - is all about "Black spirituality". Gospels, "oh happy day" and all that stuff. Americans have more than one weapon to destroy our identity. Not to forget that Black Christian evangelists support integration and mixed marriages, which are common in their communities. I prefer to see a Black man in the Tribu Ka rather than in an evangelical church.
By the way it reminds me to post something about the Tribu Ka.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Theobald

... and Mitterand and Chirac came from a conservative Catholic background.

Except that Protestants are another of these active minorities who act in the shadows. I wouldn't trust too much a Protestant politician, no more than a self-proclaimed "Catholic" by the way.
For the common people, it'd all depend on their spirit straightness. Alsacian Protestants are a different kind of Protestants, they vote a lot for the FN. Certainly more conservatives than southern ones.

Of course - to quote Maurras - Catholicism is "intimately bound up with French history, it is the mortar which held the French Nation together" - but a French nationalist state should tolerate all kinds of "old" Christianity (Lutheranism, Orthodoxy).

I don't really mind Orthodoxy, in fact I was looking at the poll and my then choices surprised me a bit. It isn't that traditional over here though. I hardly know what Orthodoxy is really, let alone Orthodox practicants.

Actually evangelism - at least as we are seeing it here - is all about "Black spirituality". Gospels, "oh happy day" and all that stuff. Americans have more than one weapon to destroy our identity. Not to forget that Black Christian evangelists support integration and mixed marriages, which are common in their communities. I prefer to see a Black man in the Tribu Ka rather than in an evangelical church.
By the way it reminds me to post something about the Tribu Ka.

We two already know what we'd prefer, eh? However, since it isn't possible for now, I've to agree with you. I'm all for comunautarism and such ethnicity pride, it can't harm us more than immigration, actually less than what integration would, so better seeing them looneys proud of themselves and living amongst themselves -wathever the veracity of their myths be- than having them spoilting our blood and heritage. Separation tomorrow, repatriation the day after tomorrow.

[Menydh]

Funny. The Evangelicals in Spain are popular among the Gypsy community.

[Galaico]

I'm a bit confused with the term Evangelical. For what I've heard the term in Europe hasn't got anything to do with the same term applied in the USA.

In Europe it is just a synonym of "Protestant". For example, in Scandinavia and Finland Evangicalism is just another word for Lutheranism, while in Germany, it is the confederation of Lutheran and Calvinist churches. In Spain (including gypsies), Evangelicals are Lutherans as in Scandinavia.

On the other hand, in the USA, Evangelicalism initially represented the Restorationism movement, allegedly a re-purification of Christianism, but basically the merge of Calvinist churches with other ex-Calvinist Reformed churches. Restorationism was the seed for the apparition of hundreds of fundamentalist sects.

Nowadays Evangelicalism in the USA is just the Republican politization of ultra-conservative Protestant churches, or the other way around, the ultra-Christianisation of some sectors of the Republican party. US Evangelical = Neo-Con.

[Caesar Princeps]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Really? You mentioned others.. what about Animism? for the Congolese of Europe? and Judaism? are Jews an European people?

That, not to mention Islam which should be banished from Europe at once.

Being a Bosniak, why am I not surprised? You keep denying your Muslim identity, by the way?

I intended Animism and Paganism only in the forms related to primitive European populations. Anyway, there would not be Congoleses in Europe, if I were the ruler, so the problem fails.
Regarding Jews, we must put them somewhere, since their state is to be erased... I thought about that Jew Republic in Siberia...Mah?!
We can tolerate the few Islamic European Nations, since they are quite small and innocuous (no more than 10 millions of Albanians and Muslim Slavs).

[Galaico]

Originally Posted by Caesar Princeps

I intended Animism and Paganism only in the forms related to primitive European populations. Anyway, there would not be Congoleses in Europe, if I were the ruler, so the problem fails.

I don't consider Asatru, Wicca, Black Sun, Odinism, and all that stuff as "Paganism", I think it is more correct to label them as "Neo-Paganism". Ancient Celtic and Germanic religious rites and most beliefs were lost hundreds of years ago, we only have left some Mythological tradition, that though very interesting it can hardly be the base of these "re-made religions".

Regarding Jews, we must put them somewhere, since their state is to be erased... I thought about that Jew Republic in Siberia...Mah?!

Why? It's not our problem, let the Israelis deal with the Palestinians, my opinion is that Europe must not be involved in these kind of foreign affairs.

We can tolerate the few Islamic European Nations, since they are quite small and innocuous (no more than 10 millions of Albanians and Muslim Slavs).

We can't afford to have these Trojan horses at our own home. Islam is seen by most Muslims as the only important factor in human relations, so proselitism and multi-culturalism are closely linked to it. Apart from the fact that Islam is totally foreign to Europe, and has been our enemy since its very beginning.