What is your religion ?

[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by donTomas

Damn it! I've been exposed! You have discovered my secret: I haven't got spiritual realm, and to read about religion is too tough for me. My religion prohibits me thinking --and that's the reason why I don't worship nature forces and sacred animals-- and I'm too afraid to develop sinful thoughts like those.

It would please me to continue opening my heart to you, but that rebel lamb has managed to escape and I'm running after trying to hold its blood in honour to Gaia. You know how hard is our religion...



(Just joking, again. If you have no sense of humor, don't start talking about neopaganism in an internet forum)

Well, you are funny, I must grant you that. But I smell a moralist perspective from above that I think is a sign of degenerate Christianity. Just because you are a Catholic nominally, you're not in any better position morally.

[donTomas]

Originally Posted by Gnist

Well, you are funny, I must grant you that. But I smell a moralist perspective from above that I think is a sign of degenerate Christianity. Just because you are a Catholic nominally, you're not in any better position morally.

Thank you very much, do you really think I'm funny? I can't believe it, but it would make me be glad.

What you are smelling is not any "moralist perspective from above", what you are smelling is just your own feeling of guilty conscience. You know that this will of "returning to innocence" is impossible and futile. Deeply in your mind you know neo-paganism and Gaia stuff are marketing and placebos.

(Not joking this time)

[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by donTomas

Thank you very much, do you really think I'm funny? I can't believe it, but it would make me be glad.

What you are smelling is not any "moralist perspective from above", what you are smelling is just your own feeling of guilty conscience. You know that this will of "returning to innocence" is impossible and futile. Deeply in your mind you know neo-paganism and Gaia stuff are marketing and placebos.

(Not joking this time)

Well... you don't have a clue what I want to do. So don't pretend you know it. You could speak for yourself, frankly, honestly and in a way that contributes to a respectful discussion. But you don't. Instead you come on with stupid characterisations of people you don't know and don't want to understand. Just because it suits your worldview doesn't make it right. It could be your worldview that is lacking. And noone is demanding of you to understand anything here. You could just stay out of it. And speak for your self. How about it?

[donTomas]

Originally Posted by Gnist

Well... you don't have a clue what I want to do. So don't pretend you know it. You could speak for yourself, frankly, honestly and in a way that contributes to a respectful discussion. But you don't. Instead you come on with stupid characterisations of people you don't know and don't want to understand. Just because it suits your worldview doesn't make it right. It could be your worldview that is lacking. And noone is demanding of you to understand anything here. You could just stay out of it. And speak for your self. How about it?

Take it easy. I promise to gift you a chicken to sacrifice in your next ritual.

[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by donTomas

Take it easy. I promise to gift you a chicken to sacrifice in your next ritual.

You have taken this to a very low level. Not just lowbrow, but also low in a completely different sense.

[donTomas]

Originally Posted by Gnist

You have taken this to a very low level. Not just lowbrow, but also low in a completely different sense.

Well, when I tried to raise it you started shouting about "talk about yourself" cause "you don't know what I want to do", or something as loose as that.

It is serious and respectable to be atheist, agnostic, cultural christian, catholic, reformed/protestant/lutheran, orthodox et al. But it is ridiculous to force yourself to believe in nature forces, to worship beasts, to dress like a krishna or to develop an absurd merge of new age scum (and these are EXAMPLES, I'm not defining you). It is a sort of "marketing spirituality" that casts with modern world cause it doesn't impose any efforts. It is just about feeling cool, feeling fine, feeling above the populace, and trying to return to the innocence of actual pagans. It is childish.

[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by donTomas

Well, when I tried to raise it you started shouting about "talk about yourself" cause "you don't know what I want to do", or something as loose as that.

It is serious and respectable to be atheist, agnostic, cultural christian, catholic, reformed/protestant/lutheran, orthodox et al. But it is ridiculous to force yourself to believe in nature forces, to worship beasts, to dress like a krishna or to develop an absurd merge of new age scum (and these are EXAMPLES, I'm not defining you). It is a sort of "marketing spirituality" that casts with modern world cause it doesn't impose any efforts. It is just about feeling cool, feeling fine, feeling above the populace, and trying to return to the innocence of actual pagans. It is childish.

You didn't attempt to raise yourself above stupor at all. If you had found anything like what you describe around here, you should have used the quote utility to comment, and not barge in on a serious discussion with your retarded "jokes", like some kind of excuse to destroy the conversation.

[Strengthandhonour]

I was raised Catholic, I don't consider myself catholic though.
Somewhere along the line, I just started questioning a lot of aspects of the church and figured I didn't believe in it. Then I had a "fling" with paganism but figured out I was just doing it more out of curiosity and not out of belief. I wanted to believe, but I didn't. This was when I was young and grew out of it.
I consider myself somewhere along the lines of a pro-catholic agnostic. I was raised catholic and under catholic morals so for me to deny it has shaped my life in one way or another is plain silly.

[Pro Hibernia]

Catholic.

[3rdEye]

Gnostic Truth-Worship.

[Engelbrecht]

Catholic-friendly Lutheran Christian.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Gnist

Gnostic Truth-Worship.

Originally Posted by Engelbrecht

Catholic-friendly Lutheran Christian.

Just by chance today I read something about Queen Kristina of Sweden. Hard to tell, some source (in Spanish) sounds neutral to her figure but the wikipedia article (in English) sounds like the work of fundamentalists.

[Savorgnan]

Originally Posted by Engelbrecht

Catholic-friendly Lutheran Christian.

Hey, welcome back, Engelbrecht!

[Salford]

Catholic, but a lot of relatives on my mother's side are high-church Anglicans.