“Losing their Christian roots, the people of Europe will Sign their own Death Warrant”

[Ioannis]

Russian Orthodox Patriarch: “Losing their Christian roots, the people of Europe will Sign their own Death Warrant”
Ominous warning urges Europeans not to abandon Christianity.
By Thaddeus M. Baklinski

MOSCOW, December 7, 2007 (LifeSiteNews,com) - Russian Orthodox Patriarch Alexy II exhorted European countries to retain their Christian heritage or risk fading into oblivion as nations.

"Modern Europe will not create a new post-Christian culture and civilization but will simply vanish from history," Alexy II said at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow on Wednesday evening.

"Losing their Christian roots, the people of Europe will sign their own death warrant," he added.

The Catholic Church and several other EU countries, notably Poland, Italy and Germany, have been lobbying European Union leaders to state and include Europe's Christian roots in the EU constitution.

Alexy II has been very active in Russia and internationally in defense of Christianity and traditional morality.

At a Kremlin meeting with President Vladimir Putin in November he called for tighter controls over the content of Russian TV and radio broadcasts, saying they were promoting "vicious behavior."

"Many television and radio programs show the permissibility of vicious behavior and it makes one contemplate the moral criteria of what mass media are allowed to do. Our society needs a public council that will assume appropriate regulating functions," he said.

In his October mission to the Council of Europe he eloquently explained the Christian moral roots of modern human rights and decried the misuse of these rights to justify immoral behavior. He also had the opportunity to defend his opposition to the Moscow "gay pride" march, saying "it is an advertisement that is being forced on people who are a very long way from it."

Alexy II has also waded into the evolution debate by demanding that Russian schools end the communist practice of teaching Darwinism exclusively and allow a freer inquiry and debate on creation and evolution. "Teaching the biblical theory of the world's creation will not harm students," he said. "If people choose to believe that they descended from apes, let them, but without imposing their opinions on others."

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[Lutiferre]

Now thats just ignorant. He obviously wants for Europe to continue living in the Dark Ages, forbidding Darwinism and the world is flat. A cheap attempt at talking to peoples inner nationalistic pride, claiming that Christianity can rescue us from genocide and extinction. Thats really not what we need, to avoid extinction - a Semitic religion with Zionist affinities.

[Martín Zalacaín]

I totally agree with the statements of Alexy II. I've heard that russian people are still very religious and proud of their christian heritage. They should stay like this, for the sake of their own identity.

As we see in other countries, when people definitely abandon christiany they just choose materialism instead, which is, imo, deadly for our nations.

[Martín Zalacaín]

Originally Posted by Degenuicide

Now thats just ignorant. He obviously wants for Europe to continue living in the Dark Ages, forbidding Darwinism and the world is flat. A cheap attempt at talking to peoples inner nationalistic pride, claiming that Christianity can rescue us from genocide and extinction. Thats really not what we need, to avoid extinction - a Semitic religion with Zionist affinities.

I'm not a moderator here, so take what I'm about to say just as a friendly advice, not as a threat:

You should change your tone when speaking about this kind of issues. Your contemptuous words about christianity can hurt others in this forum. You can say the same things that you say using a much more respectful tone.

For instance, as you may have noticed, I am not an ignorant nor a zionist agent, and still I believe that christianity is our last resort as a civilization. I might be wrong, but you won't convince me being scornful and insulting me.

[Rex Chroatorum]

Originally Posted by Gonzalvus

I totally agree with the statements of Alexy II. I've heard that russian people are still very religious and proud of their christian heritage. They should stay like this, for the sake of their own identity.

As we see in other countries, when people definitely abandon christiany they just choose materialism instead, which is, imo, deadly for our nations.

I totaly agree with you, if we abandon christiany we will abandon our identity and in this days it can be very dangerous

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Gonzalvus

I'm not a moderator here, so take what I'm about to say just as a friendly advice, not as a threat:

You should change your tone when speaking about this kind of issues. Your contemptuous words about christianity can hurt others in this forum. You can say the same things that you say using a much more respectful tone.

For instance, as you may have noticed, I am not an ignorant nor a zionist agent, and still I believe that christianity is our last resort as a civilization. I might be wrong, but you won't convince me being scornful and insulting me.

I dont think my tone against other Christians has been bad on the forum, except for a few comments, but they werent hurtful, perhaps a bit marginalizing thats all. But that is my true opinion about Christianity - it has less to do with Christians as people and more to do with the religion itself.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Degenuicide

Exactly. Typical of some Patriarch to take up a such subject as Darwinism.

Could you first define Darwinism, please? What is Darwinism? It can mean everything and nothing. Since we haven't the Patriarch Alexey here as a member of Stripes to explain to us, as to what he meant when he said "Darwinism", maybe we could ask you to explain us what you mean by that word?

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Plethon

Could you first define Darwinism, please? What is Darwinism? It can mean everything and nothing. Since we haven't the Patriarch Alexey here as a member of Stripes to explain to us, as to what he meant when he said "Darwinism", maybe we could ask you to explain us what you mean by that word?

I meant the religious opposition to the theory of evolution, as opposed to intelligent design.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Degenuicide

I meant the religious opposition to the theory of evolution, as opposed to intelligent design.

The problem is that often by "Darwinism" it is not any therory of evolution that is meant, but aggressive and intolerant atheistic materialism.

Maybe the patriarch was referring to that and not the theorry of evolution as such.

[Lutiferre]

Alexy II has also waded into the evolution debate by demanding that Russian schools end the communist practice of teaching Darwinism exclusively and allow a freer inquiry and debate on creation and evolution. "Teaching the biblical theory of the world's creation will not harm students," he said. "If people choose to believe that they descended from apes, let them, but without imposing their opinions on others."

He is referring to the biblical theory of the worlds creation, and how we should "let people choose to believe that they descended from apes", and referring to the communist practice of teaching Darwinism, is obviously an opposition to atheist Darwinist sentiments.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Degenuicide

He is referring to the biblical theory of the worlds creation, and how we should "let people choose to believe that they descended from apes", and referring to the communist practice of teaching Darwinism, is obviously an opposition to atheist Darwinist sentiments.

Very well. Since I don't feel like repeating myself, we already had a discussion on that:

Council of Europe to vote on creationism

[Savorgnan]

Originally Posted by Degenuicide

I meant the religious opposition to the theory of evolution, as opposed to intelligent design.

Did you ever heard of Teilhard de Chardin?

[Perseus]

Christ said turn the other cheek, and i don't know how that could help Europeans survive in a world of population struggles and war.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Perseus

Christ said turn the other cheek, and i don't know how that could help Europeans survive in a world of population struggles and war.

Yes, he did say that, but Christianity is way more complex than just that.