Spirit quest

[Savage]

Please answer the question of the poll.

Thank you very much.

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[Red Skull]

I am a body, and I may or may not have a spirit.

[Herceg-Bosna]

I have a spirit

[Susi]

I can't answer this! It's too hard if I think about it.

[Erasmus]

I have a soul.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Soul

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Red Skull

I am a body, and I may or may not have a spirit.

Is there a difference between being a body, and having a body?

And anyway, if " I have a body", what is this " I" , that possesses such a thing?

Originally Posted by Herceg-Bosna

I have a spirit

Ok, but what is this " I" that have a spirit?

What is the difference between this " I" and its spirit?

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I have a soul.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Soul

Interesting...But are there then people that does not have a soul?

What is the difference between a soul and a spirit?

[Red Skull]

Originally Posted by Savage

Is there a difference between being a body, and having a body?

And anyway, if " I have a body", what is this " I" , that possesses such a thing?

The self is everything combined. If I have a spirit then it is a part of my body, I guess.

[Milesian]

I have a body and a spirit (soul)

[Vincent]

I voted for "c". But I agree with the Irish king. I have both spirit and body. The "I" would be my ideas, thoughts. Are they included into the spirit? I guess I have a body, spirit AND soul. The "I" would be the spirit then.

Or maybe I'm just talking crap

[Theobald]

I guess I am a spirit (or a soul), and this spirit has, possesses a body.

[Susi]

I figured it out.

I'm a robot. I have neither

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Savage

What is the difference between a soul and a spirit?

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Soul

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Erasmus

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Soul

The catholic definition is highly subjective, constructed to supply the Churchs needs. So the definitions may only be useful to those that have that faith, but to others completely useless and also less than worthless, even misleading.

But for a believer, it may however be good enough...

But still I have not got an answer on the question, what is the difference between a soul and a spirit? A link to a catholic encyclopedia is not an answer, and not satisfying anybody but catholic believers.

Gurijeff ( "Meetings with remarkable men") compared the word "soul" with "soles", the lowest parts of the body... I find that quite humorous. Also the negroes claims to have lots of "soul". I am sure they have.


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[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Savage

The catholic definition is highly subjective, constructed to supply the Churchs needs. So the definitions may only be useful to those that have that faith, but to others completely useless and also less than worthless, even misleading.

But for a believer, it may however be good enough...

But still I have not got an answer on the question, what is the difference between a soul and a spirit? A link to a catholic encyclopedia is not an answer, and not satisfying anybody but catholic believers.

Gurijeff ( "Meetings with remarkable men") compared the word "soul" with "soles", the lowest parts of the body... I find that quite humorous. Also the negroes claims to have lots of "soul". I am sure they have.


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Maybe the the spirit is more individual and the soul universal. The spirit may or may not live on in this world after our physical death, but only the soul goes to some "other place". It's... a part of something higher (God?) that we carry with our selfs since our birth, while a spirit we have to gain throughout our lives. It can be stronger, weaker, good or evil. The soul is always pure. It's trapped between the body and spirit and has to live with their sins, or good deeds, whatever. That's at least my opinion. The first thing that comes to my head.

[Savage]

For the records, there is no such things as a facit answer on this. Those that may claim anything such may be called fanatics, since it is not possible to prove anything of this, so it only can be diplayed as hypothesis, theories, speculations or faith.

Perhaps also as personal gnosis, but also then impossible and unactual to communicate, then it would not be gnosis.

So, the catholic encyclopedia version may be as good as anybody elses definition, but for catholics. Nothing of this is written by God, but by the servants of the Church, and that is two different sources. But, underlining again, as good as any other theory, for the believers.


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[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Savage

The catholic definition is highly subjective, constructed to supply the Churchs needs. So the definitions may only be useful to those that have that faith, but to others completely useless and also less than worthless, even misleading.

But for a believer, it may however be good enough...

But still I have not got an answer on the question, what is the difference between a soul and a spirit? A link to a catholic encyclopedia is not an answer, and not satisfying anybody but catholic believers.

Gurijeff ( "Meetings with remarkable men") compared the word "soul" with "soles", the lowest parts of the body... I find that quite humorous. Also the negroes claims to have lots of "soul". I am sure they have.


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In the Old Testament "nephesh" (soul) means "human being" or whatever animal, the man is a "nephesh" and he has a "ruah" (spirit):

" the LORD God formed man out of the clay of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath* of life, and so man became a living being**." (Gen. 2:7)

*ruah
**nephesh

There is a play on words in Hebrew between "adam" (man) and "adama" (ground); being literally, soul.