This love, this love....

[Savage]

My angle of view on anything should be spiritual, also to sex, also to sexualized roles and roleplays. Others may have it otherwise.

Merging the spiritual view with the pleasures of instinct and the mechanisms of human mind, are sometimes interesting, other times rather boring.

Sometimes I ask myself, do we never get fed up by this friction /fantasy exesses? Such has been repeated for millions of years, most often limited to carnal gymanstics, and to rather temporary and earthbound goals.

The Satyr and the Nymph

But on the best, these acts have sometimes removed the roof, and several times taken Heaven down on Earth with us, even then, when I looked in the mirror on the wall, I saw myself transformed to a satyr. Other times I found myself outside of my physical body, upunder the roof, observing myself and my beloved from outside, sighing to myself, ; does she never get enough? Even after 7 stiff hours?

Kundalini, Bifrost, and extasis

For those familiar with kundalini and related technics and philosophies, sexualility, besides the breeding aspect, are primary at the service of the spirit of man, to ignite his spirit to trancend to reach new levels of consciousness and the powers of the mind.

Sexual roleplays may of course contribute to personal liberation, and thereby transcend, but the magical/mystical/spiritual charge of it may take it to heights and realms unknown to the soul/mind of consciousness of average humans.

Whatever it takes to loose the knots of the soul, within certain given principes, I consider allowed, as long as it does not violate the free will or the bodys or minds of the involved.

" -What you have done to my least, you also have done to me."

We shall reap as we saw. And I gladly judge. Pays for it later.

I have travelled some, also in the spiritual sphæres, and are well educated in various magical/philosophical schools, and there is one principe that remains as common for them all. The nescessity of love.

How it is defined is another case.

I asked a large group of people the question:

What is love?

Of these there were plenty answers to the call, all those on a "boy loves girl" level, or "love is a pain in the ass" level. But only 2 of these presented any knowledge to love beyond the subjective carnal aspects.

Blessed be the poor in spirit, they shall inherit the Earth

Shocking. They all knew the Eros aspect, but only 2 had ideas of the Agape aspect. Eros is the carnal love, and are the drive to secure the continuity of the specimen. Agape is the universal, divine , universal building and healing power. Others may define it otherways, but this is my way.

" - Love, love, love....",

Yes, yes, I am know the prophets and the gurus and the healers and the hippies annoying and eternal " Love , love, love...." mantra. I also see behind their masks, that their love, is perhaps not always so universal, as we all may fall in our pits of subjectivity and self delution. To me it seems like we all undergoes a continous inner test every second of our lives.

But that it is difficult , and that we may fail does not condemn love, universal love, or spiritual love, divine love, healing love. It just says that it is difficult, and that we all are fallable. So, after all, its not the worst idea in the world to repeat. The world
still needs plenty love, and healing, so thanks so much for reminding of that.

Love is the drug

Love is a universal medicine, and the special medicine against hate. And there is plenty hate in this world, much too much, so its good that the healers chant.
We all still have a way to go, until we are unfallible on this. We should know what hate does to our minds, hearts, souls, and our surrounding conditions and enviroment. Agape should reflect the wonder medicine, it is still called for , and will be as long as there exists humans.

Absolute beginners

I am certainly no expert on this, I fall for the temptation again and again, I sometimes in my weakness (relative weakness) finds great pleasure in hating, or wishing destruction of people I do not like, or feel "justified" rage against. Does not ones rage or hate almost always present itself as "righteous" when it comes creeping to take over our brains and hearths.

Oh yes, I have even used magic intending to uncomfort people several times. But Im trying to leave that habit behind. Please do not concider me a love-tripper or anything like that. It is not emotional, its just as a logical consequenze, as mathematics are.

Not that they perhaps do not could deserve it, but for my own sake. Neither does it help, it may satisfy temporarily, surfacial, but actually it is like putting out fire with gasoline.

Love versus hate

Since love is very very difficult, I try to set it up against hate, light may be better percepted as contrasted to darkness. And I am not very good on this, but an absolute beginner, even though I am a very old spirit, and a more powerful magician than most of these jerks writing books on the topic.
I`ll go straight in the larynx on anyone, exept a very excusive elite of magical operators, that I would be most careful to challenge. Just for the record.

Back to this love, this love, that makes the worlds go round. I would love to hear others definitions on this difficult topic.

What do we need love for?

What is love?

[M.R.]

What is love?
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
no more

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[Savage]

Are " falling in love", really love?
If not, what is it then?

Are personal and emotional affection percepcted as "love", overrated?

Just asking....





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[Susi]

Your topic is confusing to me. .-.

Of course I'm female so I'm hopeless romantic but eh. I'll try to explain without talking too much (haha, unlikely, another female trait.. ).

Love I think is important not to doubt. One just knows. Perhaps some scientific fool will say "But Susi, it is only brain-chemicals" but I don't care. I doubt we can put the intricacies of the human mind and its emotions into chemicals. I am not clear though, on what you mean by "falling in love".

I think to "fall in love" is to feel an intense attraction to someone in several aspects: emotional, intellectual, and physical. I think that one can say that to feel attracted to only the physical aspects of a person isn't really love-- it is what we call lust. One only feels for them because one finds them physically attractive-- he (I am only using "he'" because using "he or she" sounds stupid and "they" is grammatically incorrect) could have a horribly low level of intellect, et cetera... but nonetheless. Intellectual attraction cannot also on its own be love, in my opinion, because one could feel intellectually attracted to another but not feel physically or emotionally attracted at all.

Emotional attraction is by far the most important. I think one can have it without the other two (though intellect comes before in importance in physical attractiveness, at least in my book), though it may fail eventually due to too much emotion, if anyone here knows what I mean.

I don't think love is overrated at all, but maybe because I am hopelessly romantic. Love makes me feel undepressive; it is better than any stupid little pills (that I've never taken, for the record). I think love helps everyone.

But it can also hurt people when it is unrequited or the other person is awful to them. Then it makes them depressive misanthropes who feel so bitter and resentful.

Anyways. Just my super-serious speech for the month.

[Phlegethon]

Falling generally end in a crash. So the term falling in love really is appropriate.

[Strengthandhonour]

we are children of science.
we are not allowed to feel anything anymore because it's all science.
"you are not sad! your endorphin level is just down!"
"you are not in love! your chemicals are just acting up"
keep it primitive I say.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

Falling generally end in a crash. So the term falling in love really is appropriate.

Awwww. Don't be sad Phlegethon! *group hug!*

Well there are the bad moments too. I don't like having arguments or fights....

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Susi

Awwww. Don't be sad Phlegethon! *group hug!*

Well there are the bad moments too. I don't like having arguments or fights....

You have no emotions, you are a bot; plz, SAH, deprogramm this spammer!

[Strengthandhonour]

she is a bot.
I have spoken to her over the telephone before. She always sounds very emotionless and like she has a stuffy nose. I never connected the dots until now we might have to organize a stirpes hit team to go end this problem that could lead to the destruction of Europe

[Susi]

Oh come on, SAH. At least I don't sound like I'm from Ottawa.

I only sound like that because I'm usually (when I phone you) sitting on a bus that smells like piss with some crazy drug addict a few seats away completely strung out.

I am not a robot. *beeps*

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

she is a bot.
I have spoken to her over the telephone before. She always sounds very emotionless ...

Originally Posted by Susi

I am not a robot. *beeps*

Ethnicity: Germanic
Subrace: Catoid with strong nordid admixture

So you are not.. ?

[Susi]

Miaouu. I am a catoid-nordid cyborg. Ask S+H for the full story.

[Cirrus]

Originally Posted by Susi

Miaouu. I am a catoid-nordid cyborg. Ask S+H for the full story.

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Are you ?

[Susi]

No, they are just poseur-whores.