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Does anybody know how Chancelade Race (Man) really looked? Shape of the skull, forehead, brow ridges, face, chin, nose root and form, geographical dispersion etc.??? Did he have a connection with mongoloids and/or Nordids? Does anybody have a picture of the skull? On the web I found only digits that he was 160 cm high with Cephalic Index 72 and softer analysis about evolution of Midsagittal profiles of crania (from Australopithecus africanus to Chancelade and Fonterossi man);
http://www.emilianobruner.it/pdf/Bruner_CA2004.pdf
And assuredly brief descriptions made by Frans_Jozef
(http://forum.skadi.net/member.php?u=1126)

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http://forum.skadi.net/member.php?u=1126

This link leads just to the profile of Frans, nothing else.

The Chancelade skull is really interesting, some old anthropologists assumed that this variant influenced Nordids and probably even Mediterranids, whereas the most common and reasonable view I heard was that this skull was of a Protoeuropid form, similar to modern Eskimids in skull features. "A guest" like the Grimaldi race without too much impact on European types and populations, especially during the colder period...
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I got this searching on the net.




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From memory: Chancelade is Magdelanian which is the terminal Pleistocene and seperated in terms of years more from the Aurignacian than from us in modern times. The Magdelanian was a culture associated with the use of bone and ivory, especially harpoons and fish hooks made of antler horn. The nasal bones were lost. see Mynydd's picture of him. He was short. His skull was short and relatively small compared to, for instance, the Cro-Magnons. His jaw looked funny--it had extraverted gonial angles which means the corners of the jaw bone stuck out giving him a square-jawed or angular-jawed look sometimes seen in Mongoloids. There was said to be a keeling of his cranium although I cannot see it. For these reasons it was said by some that Chancelade was a Mongoloid, even an eskimoid.

Then the nasal bones were found. They were completely European. Chanclade was not eskimoid or Mongoloid, he was European. He was rather short, kinda broadfaced, relatively strong jawed, short head length. Have you ever seen a picture of US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld? Well, I believe this is close to Chancelade in the flesh.
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From memory: Chancelade is Magdelanian which is the terminal Pleistocene and seperated in terms of years more from the Aurignacian than from us in modern times. The Magdelanian was a culture associated with the use of bone and ivory, especially harpoons and fish hooks made of antler horn. The nasal bones were lost. see Mynydd's picture of him. He was short. His skull was short and relatively small compared to, for instance, the Cro-Magnons. His jaw looked funny--it had extraverted gonial angles which means the corners of the jaw bone stuck out giving him a square-jawed or angular-jawed look sometimes seen in Mongoloids. There was said to be a keeling of his cranium although I cannot see it. For these reasons it was said by some that Chancelade was a Mongoloid, even an eskimoid.

Then the nasal bones were found. They were completely European. Chanclade was not eskimoid or Mongoloid, he was European. He was rather short, kinda broadfaced, relatively strong jawed, short head length. Have you ever seen a picture of US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld? Well, I believe this is close to Chancelade in the flesh.
Please disregard everything above. I was confusing Chancelade with another Magdelanian fossil, Obercassel. Too many beers last night, sorry.
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