Abortion - Your Opinion?

[Ederico]

What are your opinions on Abortion? Discuss the Scientific and Rational but also the Ethical, Moral, and Spiritual. What do you think is the correct Nationalist approach in your Patria in relation to Abortion?

[bocian]

Well, I touched on this subject a while ago.

*Warning* a bit of a rant:

http://forum.stirpes.net/showpost.ph...01&postcount=7

According to this article mixed Hispanics can pretty much choose if they are White

http://forum.stirpes.net/showpost.ph...11&postcount=9

To sum it up, we are doing a hell of a job killing ourselves off.

[Ederico]

I will give the links a look later, at the moment I cannot stop laughing after seeing your avatar.....

[Nerthus]

I am against abortion. Don't want kids and want to be sure not to have any? Keep your legs crossed!

[Ederico]

Originally Posted by bocian

http://forum.stirpes.net/showpost.ph...01&postcount=7

That post particularly interested me because I am torn between the moral-ethical and how I could feel. For example, cases of health risks for the mother, rape and incest, and a child with severe disability (remember that that means a life of sacrifices for the couple) might induce me to accept abortion in such cases, even though I am not female, I speak from a couple's perspective.

Healthy kids, and/or the lack of preparation of the female for motherhood are never a good reason for an abortion, in fact I abhor such reasons.

[etoile noir]

totally against abortion.

in cases of incest or rape, i would advocate the use of the "morning after" pill.

other than that, i fully agree with Bayerisches Madchen

[Blood Axis]

Absolutely against it. It is murder.

I am pro birth control and family planning.

I am tired of seeing Greek girls having abortions more often than going to the dentist..they either have been inadequately informed, or they just don't care.
Beats me..

[bocian]

Originally Posted by Ederico Figallo

For example, cases of health risks for the mother, rape and incest, and a child with severe disability (remember that that means a life of sacrifices for the couple) might induce me to accept abortion in such cases, even though I am not female, I speak from a couple's perspective.

The law in Poland is basically the same. The problem is that the law itself will not change peoples attitudes, and will not prevent women from getting abortions in other countries or doing so illegally.

Although I lean in the same general direction that you and the law in Poland does, It still raises profound philosophical questions, even in cases of rape, incest. The 'spark' was there, a new life began, at no fault of it's own, so why does it deserve to be terminated? What was it guilty of? In cases of severe illness or disability, again, how can someone else decide if this life, or the thinking, breathing being it will become, will not want to live, even with a disabilty? Is the mother's life worth more than that of the child? Does a life in danger, justify the termination of another?

Many hard questions, no simple answers.

[Ebusitanus]

Don't want kids and want to be sure not to have any? Keep your legs crossed!

You are joking, right?

[Strengthandhonour]

I dislike it.
Under proper situations however, I accept it. Like for rape or incest, then I believe it is the right thing to do. Besides for that, a human being shoudln't have to pay the price of death for the lack of self control of a woman..

[Hussar]

only in case of rape.

[Awar]

I'm against abortion, but the reality is not going to listen to
ethics. Women do it, and will continue to do it.

The only way to fight it is to create a more favourable
atmosphere for child-birth, more respect to women who decide
to have children. More functional sexual education.

More normal, human nature,
sexual morality and mentality.

This means making sex normal, a thing known,
understood and not making such a big deal out of it.
The more normal a thing it becomes, the less pressure people
will feel about it, and there will be less weird practices,
less double standards. With a higher consciousness about sex,
there will be a higher responsibility.

What we have today isn't consciousness, but a post-traumatic
effect of people exiting generations of sexual repression,
people having double, triple standards when it comes to sexuality.
All the pornography around is the result of putting sex on a
weird piedestal.

When all these prerequisites are met, then we will enjoy a society
where childbirth would also have a more normal position.

[Timo]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

I am against abortion. Don't want kids and want to be sure not to have any? Keep your legs crossed!

I agree. However, I support abortion for non-european types. They can kill themselves all they want.

[Breydel]

Against.

Except in case of rape, or a heavy mental handicap like down syndrome. Only for the sake of the parents.

[Nerthus]

Originally Posted by Ebusitanus

You are joking, right?

No, I am actually serious.

[Timo]

Restraining oneself is the 100% garentee of no children or of an STD.

[Breydel]

Restraining oneself is the 100% garentee of no children or of an STD.

Right, but lets be honest that isn't really a realistic view.

[Theobald]

Absolutely against abortion (except in cases of rapes).
Abortion kills 200,000 French children each year... And by the way, I will never forget that it is Simone Weil (great French name...) who made the law which legalized it in France...